I am not saying its not fun...I am not that old(33) but I remember driving my VW bug(with dual webers and a stinger baby!) around corners REALLY fast just to get the rear to slide. OOOHHHH did I love it when it would rain(with only like 80 HP I needed all the help I can get) turning left from 6th ave onto 163rd....Duuooop.....Duuoop.....slide slide baby..the feeling of getting it just right was amazing(kind of like flooring it in second on an R1 and doing a sweet pwr wheely). I Then got a "slang 6 " nova and would again wait for the rain. After that it was a Datsun B210(remember those) with those skinny 70 series tires it was a bit hairy to slide it but it would slide very nicely. Then came my 320i. All very fun. I went to college and bought me a 4 door GSR(FWD yuk!) till I got my current job. Then I sold it and drove the company van. How many old timers are out here? You remember sliding your car(Iroc's TA's) around corners and haveing people look at you like you where an idiot? I can't imagine if I would have kept up with it. All those years of pratice man I would have gone pro(LOL with 2 kids) Just wondering if some of you cats remember sliding before it was even cool. 