Megasquirt Installer and Assistance.

pumaking

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Hey guys new to the forum, just wanted to say whats up.

I've been in the Megasquirt scene for almost 2 years now, and have megasquirted my car as well as a few other 240sx in Texas, and California.

If anyone needs assistance with a install or needs someone to help them assemble the ecu as well as help make a harness, I'll be more than glad to help out.

I specialize in S13 chassis with CA18DET using the Ford EDIS-4 ignition system, but can be incorporated into most swapped S13 chassis. I dont like Nissan electronics as they tend to suck and fail a lot.

Just so everyone knows I'm not a tuner but I've learned from one of the best who happens to be a close friend of the family whos taught me everything I know. Even though I'm not a awesome tuner Megasquirt users I might be able to set their car up so that its atleast a daily driver.


Heres a few pics of ecu's I've built and some installs.

This is one of my clients Ecu's I've built.

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My Daily Driver/fun car setup

This was before I cleaned up the wires to make it look professional.

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This is my 36-1 Wheel with VR sensor from FORD Escost 1.9L 1992

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Heres my Coilpack underneath the dash for that stealth look.

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Here are some videos of it idling and a few test runs.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2a5dabe5-b850-491d-840e-980a014e6cfc.htm


http://videos.streetfire.net/video/596437d7-81af-4393-b8b8-983600df0409.htm
 
Where are you located? I have installed my ms2 and will be tuning it myself on my turbo ka. I might need a little slap on my head about how to tune the accel enrichment. I am still working out the VE table, i have not had much time to "tune" the car, nor have i had the laptop to run megalogviewer. EDIS. Ill finish the VE table while i have the intercooler pipe off so i have no worries about hurting anything, once i have the engine tuned good NA, ill put the cold pipe on and start boost tuning, 5,7,9,12,15psi. ect.

Other then the information on the megasquirt manual can you tell me anything about fine tuning accel enrichment, some theory or base idea of where to start?

0o0o, it really is not a problem but. When I disconnect my SAW my timing advance dose not return to 10btdc. Or go anywhere at all, it chills at the 22btdc. umm wtf? Just a little odd I thought. Although quite redundant if edis dose not recive saw from ms2, that shit is fucked and wont run anyways. Any ideas?

You used the entire wheel off the escort ? how is that attached. The 36-1 wheel i have, I welded it on to the front of the crank pulley and had it zero balanced.

How much power before i start blowing out spark with this ford coil pack?

lmao, i dont know whether i read it or not, but I put the same exact mark on my crank pulley for alignment of the VR sensor, 90 off tdc.
 
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240SicknessX said:
Where are you located? I have installed my ms2 and will be tuning it myself on my turbo ka. I might need a little slap on my head about how to tune the accel enrichment. I am still working out the VE table, i have not had much time to "tune" the car, nor have i had the laptop to run megalogviewer. EDIS. Ill finish the VE table while i have the intercooler pipe off so i have no worries about hurting anything, once i have the engine tuned good NA, ill put the cold pipe on and start boost tuning, 5,7,9,12,15psi. ect.

Other then the information on the megasquirt manual can you tell me anything about fine tuning accel enrichment, some theory or base idea of where to start?

I'm in Boca Raton. A good way of doing accel enrich is pretty much just follow what the guide says but when doing adjustments I'd do it on a dyno because your in a controlled environment and its safe. Plus you can isolate things ALOT better than on real traffic.

So far we only did our VE tables and a few other things, I havent even messed with my Coldstart and Warm up procedures. But we got it to the point where its pretty nice on WOT and pretty good daily driving, but I have some mechanicaly issues to work out as well.


0o0o, it really is not a problem but. When I disconnect my SAW my timing advance dose not return to 10btdc. Or go anywhere at all, it chills at the 22btdc. umm wtf? Just a little odd I thought. Although quite redundant if edis dose not recive saw from ms2, that shit is fucked and wont run anyways. Any ideas?

When you do this, do you do it while the car is on and the car running? If you do it while the car is running it might take the 22btdc as memory and stay at that. If you do this and turn off the car than restart does it still do it? If so it might be the VR sensor is off. Regardless if EDIS Module doesnt receive a signal from MS it should bring your motor to 10* BTDC as a way of "Limp Mode" .


You used the entire wheel off the escort ? how is that attached. The 36-1 wheel i have, I welded it on to the front of the crank pulley and had it zero balanced.

The Escort wheel is pressed onto the crank pulley, what I did was I took my crank pulley along with the trigger wheel and had a guy machine down a portion of my pulley and had the wheel pressed on. What this does is eliminates P/S for me but since I removed P/S and A/C I had 2 spots to choose.

How much power before i start blowing out spark with this ford coil pack?

Unless you plan on making over 1000whp and using a ridiculously large turbo that puts out a insane amount of air the FORD EDIS ignition will suit all your needs, and has been taken up to 17,000 rpms. Its one of the reasons why the Ford EDIS system is so popular with Megasquirt users and its easy to implement.

Here is a Parish's LS1 powered Silverado. He used EDIS-8

http://diyautotune.com/cars/customer/parish_turbo_truck.htm

lmao, i dont know whether i read it or not, but I put the same exact mark on my crank pulley for alignment of the VR sensor, 90 off tdc.

made life easier when I was building the bracket for the VR sensor.


If you ever need help let me know, and if you need a tuner my friend could probably help you out.
 
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pumaking said:
I'm in Boca Raton. A good way of doing accel enrich is pretty much just follow what the guide says but when doing adjustments I'd do it on a dyno because your in a controlled environment and its safe. Plus you can isolate things ALOT better than on real traffic.

So far we only did our VE tables and a few other things, I havent even messed with my Coldstart and Warm up procedures. But we got it to the point where its pretty nice on WOT and pretty good daily driving, but I have some mechanicaly issues to work out as well.




When you do this, do you do it while the car is on and the car running? If you do it while the car is running it might take the 22btdc as memory and stay at that. If you do this and turn off the car than restart does it still do it? If so it might be the VR sensor is off. Regardless if EDIS Module doesnt receive a signal from MS it should bring your motor to 10* BTDC as a way of "Limp Mode" .




The Escort wheel is pressed onto the crank pulley, what I did was I took my crank pulley along with the trigger wheel and had a guy machine down a portion of my pulley and had the wheel pressed on. What this does is eliminates P/S for me but since I removed P/S and A/C I had 2 spots to choose.



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If I was unable to get the crank pulley balenced I would have machined down the a\c section of the pulley to mount my wheel. I didnt think you would get rid of PS.

I have many many different roads that are empty where i have all the room and time in the world to do what ever I want. I can figure it out while someone or myself is driving the car, just wanted to know if ya had any tips off the top of your head.

Today on the way into work, I was watching the wbo2 and made some adjustments as well as timing advance. Its definitly coming along easy, and I love the 3d tuning tables with the gauges off to the side. I worked out alot of querks that were in the ve table and the car dose not break up at any map or rpm reading now. Now i just have to dial in my afr's so i achive good fuel effeciency and make some power NA. Tomarrow I might be able to toss on my cold pipe and tune for 5lbs. I have my warm up enrichment set pretty well, it wonders from about a 14.5 when I initially start the engine to about a 15.5 right before teh thermostat opens. I have the GM CTS in the radiator hose, not in the head. Normally before I start the engine ill have to crank it for 1-1.5 seconds before it fires on its own, but if i cycle the key once so that it puts out the priming pulse 2 times instead of 1 time it will start up immediatly. Tomarrow ill lengthen the priming pulse from 2.0 to 3.5-4.0 msecs and see if start up is easier.(I will be tuning the car myself).

The 2 times that i tried disconnecting the saw wire I was at different idle rpms, 22* and 27* so that kinda rules out the idea of the VR sensor being off. I will try restarting ms though and see If that dose it.

What kind of mechanical issues are you having with the CA? How long has the car been driving with megasquirt installed?

Thats very very good news about the edis coil, hopefully I wont have any spark issues. I would like to get 350whp out of the engine.

thank you.
 
futur squirt user here also.......got any extra trigger wheels?!!?!?!??!? please say yes...

and you dont get any interference with the coils and edis box inside the car??????
 
240SicknessX said:
If I was unable to get the crank pulley balenced I would have machined down the a\c section of the pulley to mount my wheel. I didnt think you would get rid of PS.

I got rid of P/S before I ever thought about going Megasquirt so naturally why not :D

I have many many different roads that are empty where i have all the room and time in the world to do what ever I want. I can figure it out while someone or myself is driving the car, just wanted to know if ya had any tips off the top of your head.

Yea its pretty much just constantly changing variables and stuff to see how your reacts. What people have to understand is that with Megasquirt your pretty much redoing everything the factory engineers did for the ecu. Its constant testing until you get your motor running just right....

Today on the way into work, I was watching the wbo2 and made some adjustments as well as timing advance. Its definitly coming along easy, and I love the 3d tuning tables with the gauges off to the side. I worked out alot of querks that were in the ve table and the car dose not break up at any map or rpm reading now. Now i just have to dial in my afr's so i achive good fuel effeciency and make some power NA. Tomarrow I might be able to toss on my cold pipe and tune for 5lbs. I have my warm up enrichment set pretty well, it wonders from about a 14.5 when I initially start the engine to about a 15.5 right before teh thermostat opens. I have the GM CTS in the radiator hose, not in the head. Normally before I start the engine ill have to crank it for 1-1.5 seconds before it fires on its own, but if i cycle the key once so that it puts out the priming pulse 2 times instead of 1 time it will start up immediatly. Tomarrow ill lengthen the priming pulse from 2.0 to 3.5-4.0 msecs and see if start up is easier.(I will be tuning the car myself).


Are you running wbo2 thats wired into the MS or is it a standalone widebad like a AEM UEGO gauge, Innovate LC-1 or LM-1. Yea the Megatune software is pretty wicked, definatly more user friendly than some high-end tuning programs I've seen. Eventually I'll get around to tuning the warm up enrichments but as of now its not really a problem for me and I'm having just to much damn fun.

I highly recommend you use your stock coolant sensor, I definatly recommend using it because the radiator hose will give you a few degrees variance as opposed to a sensor on the head. If you want I'll give you the resistance values at different temps. All you have to do is rewire the plug and go into Megatune and input the values. Definatly ALOT easier for MSII as opposed to using EasyTherm for MSI users. I'm using the stock coolant sensor which is the same on all KA's and SR. If you dont want to use the nissan sensor you could always pick this up http://www.tweakit.net/shop/product_info.php?currency=USD&products_id=1355 its a coolant sensor that fits our thread, but uses a GM thermo resistor so no messing with the computer or values just plug in and go.

Tuning Megasquirt yourself is one of the greatest things about it, you do everything yourself and do it right, and you also learn a few things that are beneficial and can help tune other peoples ride as well. Theirs a lot of places and people in South Florida that claim to be tuners but are hacks and dont know anything about tuning.

The 2 times that i tried disconnecting the saw wire I was at different idle rpms, 22* and 27* so that kinda rules out the idea of the VR sensor being off. I will try restarting ms though and see If that dose it.

Try this, disconnect SAW and turn off the car completly. Grab a timing light and have someone crank the car while your using the timing light, if it DOES NOT read 10*BTDC you have a problem. If you already did this and it read 10*btdc than you should be ok and it might just be a problem with the EDIS Module.


What kind of mechanical issues are you having with the CA? How long has the car been driving with megasquirt installed?

Thats very very good news about the edis coil, hopefully I wont have any spark issues. I would like to get 350whp out of the engine.

thank you.


Eh I'm just having retarded issues like my turbo is leaking oil from one of the fittings, I believe its coming from the Oil In line. I also havent installed my exhaust because the downpipe I received doesnt fit at all. Other than the little BS crap my motor is sound and the turbo is performing beautifly I'm building boost at 2200rpms and seeing 7 psi at 2700rpms, I have a S15 GT28R incase your wondering. Hopefully once I get injectors, fuel pump and put on SS braided turbo lines since I reused the stock lines I'll put on my new manifold and hopefully we'll hit 300whp.

The car has been megasquirted for almost a year, I had the CA swapped in February and a week later installed and fired up megasquirt. Aparently the stock turbo took a dump I guess since it was past its time, than some douche bag broke into my car and stole $1000 worth of parts and my car sat for a bit, as well as I was doing other stuff like building the IC piping.

But so far its been about 4 months since I've been driving the car everyday around the city probably putting like 20 miles a day, and maybe over 60 a day on saturday as I like to head down to the junkyard. As long as I stay off boost I fill my car up once a month so I figure im getting over 30mpg but once I get all boost happy that goes to crap.

m4nfred said:
futur squirt user here also.......got any extra trigger wheels?!!?!?!??!? please say yes...

and you dont get any interference with the coils and edis box inside the car??????

Trigger wheels arent hard to get, if you need one I can always pick one up for you.

If your refering to electronic interference no, as long as you use shielded wires where it tells you too and use a Noise Suppression Filter than you'll be ok. I was fine before I had my CD player stolen.
 
Yea after reading a few threads about megasquirt I figured I'd offer my knowledge to help those in need. Definatly clear up some of the confusion cause some people we're just talking garbage like I've never seen before.
 
Well seeing as im jumping into ms fairly soon. Rwdrift and slickrick will help with whatever questions i may have. But it is always nice to have someone to ask a question with some expiriance.
 
on what setup, ignition system etc etc. I was lucky all I had to do was just wire up 1 wire from the EDIS module straight to the tach behind the gauge cluster and bam works like a charm. I checked the rpms and they are dead on.
 
EDIS4 KA24DE using trigger wheel and vr sensor and PIP and SAW have good connection but it's not picking up on MegaTune
 
does the motor run? could possibly be maybe something was hooked up wrong or could also be that something like a resistor, diode or something was placed in the wrong direction or could be bad cable. My suggestion is reload the code to V 2.36 and use the latest version of Megatune 2.25

I created a write awhile ago after I megasquirted my car heres a link to help you guys.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/164446
 
the car was running 2hrs before and then all of a sudden went to try to start it 2hrs later and no rpm signal, nothing moved, nothing unplugged, nothing fried, everything good, except no RPM signal. unless the ms2 box is defective but it was working fine before so wtf
 
what can happen is the code might get corrupted depending on how stable it is. It can get corrupted by several reasons like voltage spikes and other things. Try disconnecting the battery than reconnecting, use the latest Megatune and I'm using code 2.36 for MSII with awesome success.
 
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