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Caught this completely by accident the other night. FASTBRAKES has put together an incredible front braking system. The price tag is very acceptable at $750. Thats $750 for brakes that you can install yourself, and be riding on them the second they are completed. Not $750 for a brake setup, then more money for 5lug hubs, even more money for new 5 lug wheels and that will accomodate your huge brakes, then even MORE money for tires to put on your 5 lug wheels that cost you money.

The kit consists of
-11-inch slotted and vented rotors
-Wilwood Dynalite 4-piston calipers
-Hawk HPS brake pads (good street compound)
-Braided stainless steel brake lines
-Brackets to bolt the calipers to the stock S13 hub
-Detailed instructions

So there you have a 99.6 percent complete 4 piston Front brake setup. The only thing you need to buy *and highly recommend* is better brake fluid.

The brake in a box :laugh:
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Rotors supplied in kit vs stock 240 brakes
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The ONLY actual modification needed for this kit *banging the dust shield upward 1/4 of an inch*
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And after everything is all said and done, the finished product looks absolutely stunning
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Heres the main reason why I am posting this. For all us poor folk that have 20 stock SE 7spoke wheels for drift duty.
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Now how about that.......a 4 piston brake caliper fitting behind a stock 15in wheel. Try that with your z brakes :laugh:

I am VERY interested in this setup myself. My next big overtime paycheck might be going to this kit. I will post a writeup for installation.
 
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They make anything like that for 5 lug at that price? Ive never really looked into brakes so forgive me if its a common thing.
 
kwkouki said:
Now how about that.......a 4 piston brake caliper fitting behind a stock 15in wheel. Try that with your z brakes :laugh:
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There are 2 different kinds of s13 se wheels. One kind of the wheel is said to have a different casting shape and clears z32 brakes, If not just run a 5mm spacer and you will clear z32 brakes all day long.

What advantages do you see with this setup opposed to 300zx brakes, Do you know that the calipers provide a larger piston surface area or something?

Bleeder valves on the top and the bottom of the caliper, so people like me dont have a chance to install them upside down? or to completly gravitey bleed the brakes when changing to new fluid so you are 100% sure you have all the old stuff out?


OR, have someone redrill a set of q45 rotors and use those which will clear 15in se wheels w\ out spacers.
 
240SicknessX said:
OR, have someone redrill a set of q45 rotors and use those which will clear 15in se wheels w\ out spacers.
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they even clear the spare tire ftw.

I had z32 calipers with stock SE wheels, all you need is a 5mm spacer
 
dan said:
they even clear the spare tire ftw.
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spare tire? wtf? I dont know about everyone else, but i always have 2 wheels mounted in the trunk at all times instead of the 55mph bicycle tire.
 
240SicknessX said:
What advantages do you see with this setup opposed to 300zx brakes, Do you know that the calipers provide a larger piston surface area or something?

Bleeder valves on the top and the bottom of the caliper, so people like me dont have a chance to install them upside down? or to completly gravitey bleed the brakes when changing to new fluid so you are 100% sure you have all the old stuff out?
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Advantages - Most likely a lighter setup. I would like to look into this myself. More range of wheel fitment *if you dont want to bother running spacers/longer studs* Brake pad change is insanely quick. They drop in from the top of the caliper. Cotter pin out, old pads out, new pads in, cotter pin secured. This can be done in what......minute and a half?

I really cant say the rotors, because you can buy slotted z rotors. But then again they are included with the package so you have them from the start.

All needed parts are already there, rather than buying piece by piece or looking for a complete z brake setup.
 
kwkouki said:
Advantages - Most likely a lighter setup. I would like to look into this myself. More range of wheel fitment *if you dont want to bother running spacers/longer studs* Brake pad change is insanely quick. They drop in from the top of the caliper. Cotter pin out, old pads out, new pads in, cotter pin secured. This can be done in what......minute and a half?

I really cant say the rotors, because you can buy slotted z rotors. But then again they are included with the package so you have them from the start.

All needed parts are already there, rather than buying piece by piece or looking for a complete z brake setup.
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If you are looking for a lighter setup? lol, you should not be replacing your smaller 240sx rotor with a larger diamater and thicker z32 rotor.

Wider range of wheel fitment no biggie.

I can change my brake pads rather quickly, and 99% of us do not have a HPDE license to drive on a road course during open track days ( where you would need to change from street to race pads).

z32\q45\j30 setups are found at junk yards with all the peices, if you get them off ebay you have some additional cost, but definitly not 750$ worth.

Sure the whole thing is trick, looks good, you might have something that not everyone else has, but I dont see the advantages for the additional 750 dollars which could be put towards buying a clutch type diff.
 
i think its pretty good considering most aftermarket brake systems can set you back bout 2g's and who knows how long those junkyard Z brakes are gonna last

besides i think its the start of a new trend of makin quality parts cheaper for us hard workin folks.
 
illsuspect said:
i think its pretty good considering most aftermarket brake systems can set you back bout 2g's and who knows how long those junkyard Z brakes are gonna last

besides i think its the start of a new trend of makin quality parts cheaper for us hard workin folks.
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brand new z32 calipers for the front $180.00 new front rotors $60.00 new front pads 40$ new s.s. z32 brake lines $60

$340.00 for BRAND NEW z32 front brake upgrade.

Prices from Bennet Auto Supply.
 
well you said junkyard calipers not knowing how long to last, i was just saying for a fraction of the price you can get them brand spankin new
 
240SicknessX said:
If you are looking for a lighter setup? lol, you should not be replacing your smaller 240sx rotor with a larger diamater and thicker z32 rotor.

Wider range of wheel fitment no biggie.

I can change my brake pads rather quickly, and 99% of us do not have a HPDE license to drive on a road course during open track days ( where you would need to change from street to race pads).

z32\q45\j30 setups are found at junk yards with all the peices, if you get them off ebay you have some additional cost, but definitly not 750$ worth.

Sure the whole thing is trick, looks good, you might have something that not everyone else has, but I dont see the advantages for the additional 750 dollars which could be put towards buying a clutch type diff.
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Sure you can change them quickly, but can you do them in under 2 minutes?

Not everyone has access to junkyards. I have 2 choices locally and they all suck. I get lucky once in a lifetime there. everyone has access to this kit quickly.

Different people, different priorities. The pad change is a big plus for me, 07 I will be attending as many road race events possible. I autoX monthly, with the option to head to Miami for ER events I really do not want to go 5 lug, I see no reason for it. I have my wheels, and my wheel taste is anything 16in and lower.
 
kwkouki said:
Sure you can change them quickly, but can you do them in under 2 minutes?

Not everyone has access to junkyards. I have 2 choices locally and they all suck. I get lucky once in a lifetime there. everyone has access to this kit quickly.

Different people, different priorities. The pad change is a big plus for me, 07 I will be attending as many road race events possible. I autoX monthly, with the option to head to Miami for ER events I really do not want to go 5 lug, I see no reason for it. I have my wheels, and my wheel taste is anything 16in and lower.
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If having the ability to change all four pad sets in 15 mins opposed to 35-40mins is worth everything to you then more power to ya. Why would you have to change your brake pads for an auto-x event? racing pads eat the rotor faster then the pads wear down so its not like its an issue for wearing your race pads out on the street.

If you are absolutly serious about road racing at different courses and have the money for it you wont be running a 12inch rotor. You would need a 17" wheel to clear the brakes that would be best suited for you.

shit, i could buy brembo evo/sti calipers and rotors FnR for this price, make the bracket so they bolt up in the front and be done. get creative with a brake bias adjuster ect.
 
240SicknessX said:
If having the ability to change all four pad sets in 15 mins opposed to 35-40mins is worth everything to you then more power to ya. Why would you have to change your brake pads for an auto-x event? racing pads eat the rotor faster then the pads wear down so its not like its an issue for wearing your race pads out on the street.

If you are absolutly serious about road racing at different courses and have the money for it you wont be running a 12inch rotor. You would need a 17" wheel to clear the brakes that would be best suited for you.

shit, i could buy brembo evo/sti calipers and rotors FnR for this price, make the bracket so they bolt up in the front and be done. get creative with a brake bias adjuster ect.
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If you knew anything about my AutoX club you would know we run 5 road races during the year. If you are driving your hardest, you will outdrive most street pads during these events. I can say this from personal experience. Not a nice feeling flying past the finish line at over 100mph and having no brakes, just road to coast and ebrake to slow you down.

Plain and simple, I like this brake setup. I would run these than z brakes. I think it will be a great upgrade for me, and my driving tastes.

Go buy brembo/evo rotors then man, why the fuck are you so negative about these brakes *or every other tech post in general* Thank you for pointing out your opinion and different options.
 
why would you run these over z32 brakes though?

kwkouki said:
Heres the main reason why I am posting this. For all us poor folk that have 20 stock SE 7spoke wheels for drift duty.
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do they clear the wheels with all the lug nuts on and tightened down without a spacer? they dont look like they will from the caliper/rotor image. drift duty wheels are for the rear anyway :D
 
I would run these over z brakes because I cant pick my own z brakes. Im not driving 8 hrs to find them, im not paying $200 to have them shipped, and im not buying more wheels or want to run spacers. I really dont want used brakes or refurbished old brakes sold as brand new brakes.

they will clear with all the lugs and no spacer. false statements are ftl. I have my 615s on stock wheels most of the time.
 
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