Bmw Vs Nissan

M3 is supposed to be one of the best drifting cars out of the box, tho its pricey, so yea, if you want a track monster, buy a nissan for cheaper, throw some money in upgrades...call it a day. or have a fat payment, a great drifting car, and go pick up chicks all weekend with an m3.

only true way to tell who is a better manufacturer would be to give both companies a "salary cap" (dont know what it would be called, thats the only term i could think of from football) and tell them to both build a car with the same budget, and see who out-performs who.

i probably said something that someone will disagree with or think is wrong, but w/e just my opinion.
 
look at the fucking price difference in anything on any of their cars, u cant compare nissan and bmw, they r in different classes and im almost positive that in japan u can get a skyline alot cheaper than u can get an m3 in germany, n i know that for a fact cuz i was in europe 2 months ago and m3 r seen once in a blue moon by only rich ass european guys
 
Piner said:
Yeah the renesis has almost 200hp per liter and do give me any of that a rotory is worth double its displacement, since displacement is the swept volume of a engines chambers added together not some stupid compensation factor guys who are insecure with their piston motors make up.
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i think the gas milage that a rotary gets is the proof that you cant compare it's displacement to that of a 4-stroke piston motor. And who gives a crap about displacement anyway, if your motor is 1.3 liters if it gets milage like a 5 liter- I'd rather have the V8.
 
green_machine said:
i think the gas milage that a rotary gets is the proof that you cant compare it's displacement to that of a 4-stroke piston motor. And who gives a crap about displacement anyway, if your motor is 1.3 liters if it gets milage like a 5 liter- I'd rather have the V8.
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lol, my friend gets better highway mileage towing his rx7 with his truck than he does driving it...lmao! :laugh: :laugh:
 
BMW M3 GTR Schnitzer (11/2002) 7:12.25
Radical SR3 Turbo ( 7/2003) 7.19 (7:26 road tyres link???)
Porsche Carrera GT ( 9/2004) 7:32.44 (22.835km circuit)
TechArt-Porsche GT street ( 8/2001) 7:43
Pagani Zonda S ( 7/2002) 7:44
Porsche 911 GT2 ( 6/2001) 7:46
Porsche 911 GT3 RS ( 3/2004) 7:47
Porsche 911 GT3 Cup ( 2/1999) 7:49
Lamborghini Murciélago ( 6/2002) 7:50
BMW M3 CSL ( 8/2003) 7:50
Mercedes SLR McLaren ( 6/2004) 7:52
Nissan Skyline GT-R R34 (???) 7:52 (Unofficial)
Lamborghini Gallardo (12/2003) 7:52
Porsche 911 GT3 ( 6/2003) 7:54
Ferrari Challenge Stradale ( 2/2004) 7:56
Porsche 911 Turbo ( 6/2000) 7:56
Lotec-Porsche 911 Turbo ( 5/1998) 7:57
Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 (???) 7:59 (Unofficial)
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to me this list just proves that the GTR is a better car. they are just a production car you can say the other cars on the list are production cars too but for some reason i don't see a E30, an E36 on a normal E46 anywhere on there. where's the lap time for the Z-tune i know its gonna be alot faster then the stock R34
 
BMW Z8 ( 8/2000) 8:18
BMW M3 ( 12/2000) 8:22
BMW M5 ( 3/1999) 8:28
BMW M3 SMG ( 3/1997) 8:35

A few others from the list I have.... I did not bother to copy paste the whole list as it was huge. However mind you these production years usually appoint the older models as the e46 M3 came into production in 2001 and the M5 in 2005.
 
well if you notice all the cars up above are competition models or special editions or exotic cars.... but the 2 GTR's are production models....they don't have the Nismo 400 listed...or the R-tune or the Z-tune. but im sure they would all run much faster then the stock one. i've driven a RB powered car and i've driven an E36 M3 and just because of the shifter feel i would rather have the 78 datsun with a skyline motor then an E36 M3...unless maybe if it was a turbo lightweight M3
 
PlatanoDrifter said:
exactly what i was tryin to say in a more complicated drwan out way :bigthumbu just wanted to sound smarter :laugh:
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i think you lost on that one homie! :noob:

i love the nissan to death and well i gotta admit m's will probably blow it out of the water, if you think about it the germans designed alot of stuff for nissan so you know they must be doing something right.

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For the MONEY Nissan takes it hands down...

Bmw m's are too boxy for my taste... i dont really find there cars that appealing. much rather drive an s15/skyline. if m3's were that great of drift cars they would be running d1 or fd. instead Nissan does...
 
That's stupid of you to say. In a Japanese dominated world, where its so much easier to built (what to them is) a domestic car, why would you build an M3 instead? Only one person dared doing it... and to show you how hard/expensive it was to get parts and support, they ended up putting an RB in the car.

As for Formula D, Andy Sapp goes through the same issue, which is why no one else jumps on BMWs: costs are way too high since the aftermarket support isn't as big. The bigger the aftermarket support, the cheaper the parts are.

- Erick
 
No... by saying that you sound like a $30k 350Z is better than a $45k M3, and once again, such comparison is redundant.
 
POLE-POSITION said:
well if you notice all the cars up above are competition models or special editions or exotic cars.... but the 2 GTR's are production models....they don't have the Nismo 400 listed...or the R-tune or the Z-tune. but im sure they would all run much faster then the stock one. i've driven a RB powered car and i've driven an E36 M3 and just because of the shifter feel i would rather have the 78 datsun with a skyline motor then an E36 M3...unless maybe if it was a turbo lightweight M3
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Keep hitting whatever pipe that is you were smoking if you think a stock GTR ran those times. :laugh:
 
Well, with the extra 15k difference poured into the 350z it would be better as far as all around performance. Again, thats what i mean when i say "for the money". you keep proving my point.
 
Under_Control said:
Well, with the extra 15k difference poured into the 350z it would be better as far as all around performance. Again, thats what i mean when i say "for the money". you keep proving my point.
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I honestly don't think so. Oftem times aftermaket parts make a car handle/perform worse than from the factory. Nothing you or I can do with $15k will match the level of engineering a company like BMW puts into their M-series cars. The R&D that goes into M series engines alone is beyond impressive. If you knew, you'd understand.

Whatever though, this is the ricer arguement that's been going on since the import scene began...so yes, with $15k one can make a 350z perform better and with $20k one can make a 240sx perform better. But wait, it gets better!!! With $30k, you can make a Mitsubishi Mirage perform better. So a Mitsubishi Mirage = better bang for the buck than a 350z. Nissan sucks, Mitsubishi wins.
 
buy a gtr, 280hp.
buy an M3, 300hp.

add hp to a gtr by turning up the boost.
add noticable hp to an M3 easily by...you tell me...
 
"Nothing you or I can do with $15k will match the level of engineering a company like BMW puts into their M-series cars"

I think u might be the one on the pipe....^^

Right... performance wise.... it will destroy the m series with that much money invested into it. Maybe YOU (no pun intended dori) wouldnt be able to build a 350z that can out perform an m series with 15k i know i sure as hell would.

With that much money you can have a 350z pullin close to if not a 1.0g on the skidpad. plus somewhere in the 500-600 hp range. how is that not out performing a stock m3?

Stock m3 = 333hp/ 0.88g skidpad/ 67.30 slalom/ 3415 curb weight

Plz do not overestimate the m3's capabilities. it is an awesome car but lets be realistic. A 350z with that amount of money, built right would definately make the m3 road kill.
 
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Under_Control said:
"Nothing you or I can do with $15k will match the level of engineering a company like BMW puts into their M-series cars"

I think u might be the one on the pipe....^^

Right... performance wise.... it will destroy the m series with that much money invested into it. Maybe YOU wouldnt be able to build a 350z that can out perform an m series with 15k i know i sure as hell would.
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Show me one car that you've built up, please. I'd love to see your expert engineering match BMW's. HAHAHAHAHA :laugh:

LateralMotion said:
buy a gtr, 280hp.
buy an M3, 300hp.

add hp to a gtr by turning up the boost.
add noticable hp to an M3 easily by...you tell me...
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First off, that's 333hp.

So, ease of HP gain = better car? Please, now you're just fishing.
 
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