ChopperGunner *leaked*

PART II

13) Lights:
Thumbs up. Most of the weapon mounted and personal lights are Surefire's, and the troops love 'em. Invaluable for night urban operations. Jordan carried a $34 Surefire G2 on a neck lanyard and loved it. I cant help but notice that most of the good fighting weapons and ordnance are 50 or more years old!! With all our technology, it's the WWII and Vietnam era weapons that everybody wants!! The infantry fighting is frequent, up close and brutal. No quarter is given or shown.

Bad guy weapons:
1) Mostly AK47's. The entire country is an arsenal. Works better in the desert than the M16 and the .308 Russian round kills reliably. PKM belt fed light machine guns are also common and effective. Luckily, the enemy mostly shoots like shit. Undisciplined "spray and pray" type fire. However, they are seeing more and more precision weapons, especially sniper rifles. ( Iran, again)

2) The RPG:
Probably the infantry weapon most feared by our guys. Simple, reliable and as common as dogshit. The enemy responded to our up-armored Humvees by aiming at the windshields, often at point blank range. Still killing a lot of our guys.

3) The IED:
The biggest killer of all. Can be anything from old Soviet anti-armor mines to jury rigged artillery shells. A lot found in Jordan 's area were in abandoned cars. The enemy would take 2 or 3 155 mm artillery shells and wire them together. Most were detonated by cell phone and the explosions are enormous. You're not safe in any vehicle, even an M1 tank. Driving is by far the most dangerous thing our guys do over there. Lately, they are much more sophisticated "shape charges" (Iranian) specifically designed to penetrate armor. Fact: Most of the ready made IED's are supplied by Iran, who is also providing terrorists (Hezbollah types) to train the insurgents in their use and tactics. That's why the attacks have been so deadly lately. Their concealment methods are ingenious, the latest being shape charges, in Styrofoam containers spray painted to look like the cinderblocks that litter all Iraqi roads. We find about 40% before they detonate, and the bomb disposal guys are unsung heroes of this war.

4) Mortars and rockets:
Very prevalent. The soviet era 122mm rockets (with an 18km range) are becoming more prevalent. One of Jordan 's NCO's lost a leg to one. These weapons cause a lot of damage "inside the wire". Jordan 's base was hit almost daily his entire time there by mortar and rocket fire, often at night to disrupt sleep patterns and cause fatigue (It did). More of a psychological weapon than anything else. The enemy mortar teams would jump out of vehicles, fire a few rounds, and then haul ass in a matter of seconds.

Fun fact:
Captured enemy have apparently marveled at the marksmanship of our guys and how hard they fight. They are apparently told in Jihad school that the Americans rely solely on technology, and can be easily beaten in close quarters combat for their lack of toughness. Let's just say they know better now.

Bad guy technology:
Simple yet effective. Most communication is by cell and satellite phones and also by email on laptops. They use handheld GPS units for navigation and "Google Earth" for overhead views of our positions. Their weapons are good, if not fancy, and prevalent. Their explosives and bomb technology is TOP OF THE LINE. Night vision is rare. They are very careless with their equipment and the captured GPS units and laptops are treasure troves of Intel when captured.

Who are the bad guys? Most of the carnage is caused by the Zarqawi Al Qaeda group. They operate mostly in Anbar province (Fallujah and Ramadi). These are mostly "foreigners", non-Iraqi Sunni Arab Jihadists from all over the Muslim world (and Europe ). Most enter Iraq through Syria (with, of course, the knowledge and complicity of the Syrian govt.), and then travel down the "rat line" which is the trail of towns along the Euphrates River that we've been hitting hard for the last few months.

Some are virtually untrained young Jihadists that often end up as suicide bombers or in various "sacrifice squads". Most, however, are hard core terrorists from all the usual suspects (Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas etc.). These are the guys running around murdering civilians an masse and cutting heads off.
The Chechens (many of whom are Caucasian) are supposedly the most ruthless and the best fighters. They have been fighting the Russians for years. In the Baghdad area and south, most of the insurgents are Iranian inspired (and led) Iraqi Shiites. The Iranian Shiia have been very adept at infiltrating the Iraqi local govt.'s, the police forces and the Army. They have had a massive spy and agitator network there since the Iran-Iraq war in the early 80's. Most of the Saddam loyalists were killed, captured, or gave up long ago.
Bad Guy Tactics: When they are engaged on an infantry level they get their asses kicked every time! Brave, but stupid. Suicidal Banzai-type charges were very common earlier in the war and still occur. They will literally sacrifice 8-10 man teams in suicide squads by sending them screaming and firing AK's and RPG's directly at our bases just to probe the defenses. They get mowed down like grass every time (see the M2 and M240 above). Jordan 's base was hit like this often.

When engaged, they have a tendency to flee to the same building, probably for what they think will be a glorious last stand. Instead, we call in air and that's the end of that more often than not. These hole-ups are referred to as Alpha Whiskey Romeo's (Allah's Waiting Room). We have the laser guided ground-air thing down to a science. The fast mover's, mostly Marine F-18's, are taking an ever increasing toll on the enemy. When caught out in the open, the helicopter gunships and AC-130 Spectre Gunships cut them to ribbons with cannon and rocket fire, especially at night. Interestingly, artillery is hardly used at all.

Fun facts:
The enemy death toll is supposedly between 45-50 thousand. That is why we're seeing less and less infantry attacks and more IED, suicide bomber shit. The new strategy is just simple: attrition.

The insurgent tactic most frustrating is their use of civilian non-combatants as cover. They know we do all we can to avoid civilian casualties and therefore schools, hospitals and especially Mosques are locations where they meet, stage for attacks, cache weapons, and ammo and flee to when engaged. They have absolutely no regard whatsoever for inflicting civilian casualties. They will terrorize locals and murder without hesitation anyone believed to be sympathetic to the Americans or the new Iraqi govt. Kidnapping of family members, especially children, is common to influence people they are trying to influence but can't reach, such as local govt. officials, clerics, tribal leaders, etc..
The first thing our guys are told is "don't get captured". They know that if captured they will be tortured and beheaded on the internet. Zarqawi openly offers bounties for anyone who brings him a live American serviceman. This motivates the criminal element who otherwise don't give a shit about the war. A lot of the beheading victims were actually kidnapped by common criminals and sold to Zarqawi.

As such, for our guys, every fight is to the death. Surrender is not an option. The Iraqi's are a mixed bag.. Some fight well; others aren't worth a damn. Most do okay with American support. Finding leaders is hard, but they are getting better.

It is widely viewed that Zarqawi's use of suicide bombers, en masse, against the civilian population was a serious tactical mistake. Many Iraqi's were galvanized and the caliber of recruits in the Army and the police forces went right up, along with their motivation. It also led to an exponential increase in good intel because the Iraqi's are sick of the insurgent attacks against civilians. The Kurds are solidly pro-American and fearless fighters.

Morale:
According to Jordan , morale among our guys is very high.They not only believe that they are winning, but that they are winning decisively. They are stunned and dismayed by what they see in the American press, whom they almost universally view as against them. The embedded reporters are despised and distrusted. They are inflicting casualties at a rate of 20-1 and then see shit like "Are we losing in Iraq " on TV and the print media.
For the most part, they are satisfied with their equipment, food, and leadership. Bottom line though, and they all say this, is that there are not enough guys there to drive the final stake through the heart of the insurgency, primarily because there aren't enough troops in-theater to shut down the borders with Iran and Syria. The Iranians and the Syrians just can't stand the thought of Iraq being an American ally (with, of course, permanent US bases there).
Anyway, that's it, hope you found it interesting.
 
Awesome read thanks for posting that. I am honestly considering enlisting in the next couple months so its a good motivator to read this.
 
Voicing your opinion is something we take for granted in the USA. It might not feel like it, but fighting these wars and having such a great military is what keeps these rights alive. There are other countries that would love to take advantage of any sign of weakness we show.

If what Dangle said about Obama is true.....we're fucked.


1) The M-16 rifle:
Thumbs down. Chronic jamming problems with the talcum powder like sand over there. The sand is everywhere. Jordan says you feel filthy 2 minutes after coming out of the shower. The M-4 carbine version is more popular because it's lighter and shorter, but it has jamming problems also. They lack the ability to mount the various optical gunsights and weapons lights on the picatinny rails, but the weapon itself is not great in a desert environment. They all hate the 5.56mm (.223) round. Poor penetration on the cinderblock structure common over there and even torso hits can't be reliably counted on to put the enemy down.

8) The M-14:
Thumbs up. They are being re-issued in bulk, mostly in a modified version to special ops guys. Modifications include lightweight Kevlar stocks and low power red dot or ACOG sights. Very reliable in the sandy environment, and they love the 7.62 round.

They need to hurry up and replace the M-16 and M4 with newer rifles

The HK416 and the FN SCAR in my opinion are much better rifles (from what I've read). When tested against the M4 they have about 1/4 the amount of jamming in desert conditions IIRC. the SCAR is chambered in 5.56 and 7.62 so that seems like it would suit what they like. No need to reissue M14 (even though it would save the government some money I guess). Last I read there were certain divisions being issued the HK416 and the SCAR so hopefully it does well in action and replaces the M4 and M16
 
The Magpul Bushmaster ACR is badass too from what I have read but I am not sure about the desert conditions being tested on that firearm and the information on that treaty is right in that link I posted Frank.
 
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lets put it this way... the un has been trying to get rid of nuclear weapons for decades now... just obama is trying to bring up an old book here... honestly tho it wouldnt be a bad deal, because nuclear weapons are completely pointless... once someone launches one everyone is dead, the main reason for this treaty is so that iran doesnt become a nuclear state... i say go for it, becuase once one goes up the world ends(PERIOD)
 
They are used for power though DJ thats the reason for them. If we get rid of them then Russia will just threaten us with Nuclear War and we will have to comply with it because we have nothing to defend ourselves with. I say nay don't go for it because we will end up Russia's bitch because they are going to comply. Its like having everyone turn their guns in yeah the good people will do it but the people who are criminals will just laugh in the faces of everyone else because now they are one up on everyone.
 
It was posted in the news yesterday stating that Obama's administration says that Iran getting Nukes is inevitable and we need to prepare ourselves for a world where Iran has them readily available to shoot at us or Israel.
 
You are wrong Mike. All of my buddies that have come back from Iraq both marine corps and army all say they hated it and never wanted to go in the first place. But they had to because it is there job. My buddy is now 24 and disabled due to the war and came back pissed as hell because they didnt pay him enough to have bullets flying over his head. But he went because it was HIS JOB.
 
Nick it sucks but it is their job and that is just the way it is. Anytime the government gets involved and doesnt allow generals and the such get what they need because they are trying to be politically correct in a war gets us in a bad way. I grew up in the military and I work for the military now and I know how it is.

You sign the document saying your going to serve and that is what is expected of you no matter the given situation. Everyone has a chain of command to go through and it is not a guarantee that everything is gonna work out but that is what they are there for.
 
Exactly. Its not so much the guys WANT to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, its just that is there job. They have no say in the matter.
 
War is hell. Death, it's only escape.



He believes the upper %1 should be more equal to the lower %99, which everyone should agree with.

Why should anyone agree with that I for one don't think that someone who went out and earned their money should be taxed or asked to be equal to everyone else you want money earn it or be broke and die because you are just bringing our economy down.
 
You are wrong Mike. All of my buddies that have come back from Iraq both marine corps and army all say they hated it and never wanted to go in the first place. But they had to because it is there job. My buddy is now 24 and disabled due to the war and came back pissed as hell because they didnt pay him enough to have bullets flying over his head. But he went because it was HIS JOB.

paid enough my ass. im sorry but he joined the military the way he did, and he expected what? not to be a dick, but if he is 24 then when he joined the military he knew exactly where he was goin..... sorry no excuses for lack of pay he fully understood the ramifications of his decision to join... but none the less semper fi baby... and i as well as most of america really appreciates all who serve!
 
ive seen and heard about this on my last misson i got back from... as you guys know im here in iraq as i write this and as some of you guys know im infantry so i see this shit everyday here.... ive scanned at some of your post and i have to thank you guys for looking out for us here and standing by your troops that have to make this call everyday.... ive seen the video and i cant go to much into it for reasons but the point of the all that is the pilot did in fact have PID on targets with small arms and people here are not stupid they are the ones calling on us to put a stop to them and we do our job to make it a safer places for the iraqi people... the pilot had PID on the targets, some with small arms that you can see in the tape and from what you see is what they see so what he thought was a RPG could have been a camera or maybe it was? the point is if we call for them to get eyes on small arms fire from an area that we just got hit and they find that then the light is green to take them out... that was text book on how rulers on engagement works here, get PID, make sure you have it, and take out the target.... if targets are still hurt or what not you are not able to fire until the target becomes a threat again by picking up a weapon or having another element recover you as what the van was trying to do, so the van became a new threat becuz they are helping the threat leave the site... armed or not they still are now a target. Now from what ive heard yes some good people were in the wrong place at the wrong time and you have all seen what was the end resulte but its not on the pilots hands to find out more on the threat, his job is my eyes in the sky and if we are getting hit with small arms firer and RPG hits and he sees the fucker that is doing it then you know that im going to give him the go to light them up, who ever is with that groupe... its not a pretty job and the way i see it, this is not something the people we love back at home should be watching... i for one would never ask anyone to know what its like to be out here cuz i would never put that on anyone... i do what i have to do to come back home and keep everyone back at home safe so the fuckers that make it hard for good, hard working iraqis here not have to come to my home and do the same.... thank you all for your support from me and all my friends here do what we have to do to come back home.

Exactly. Its not so much the guys WANT to go to Iraq or Afghanistan, its just that is there job. They have no say in the matter.

look dude, i know you may know a few people in the military that say dude it sucks cuz idk anyone that is apart from there loved ones, family, and way of life and have a good time fighting... but i can tell you this, we all know why we sign up and why we do what we do... you cant explain it to anyone but yourself.... there are people in the military EVERYWHERE that will never even fire a round and there are the few like your friends and I that have to be in the SUCK 24/7 having RPGs and rounds blow past our heads... point is i have almost 160 soliders in my unit from units all over the states that have asked to go, as well as myself.... for X and Y reasons, the money, for the thrill, for bitches, or maybe to fight for there country. At the end of the day if someone tells you they didnt want to go its because the are the few that one, pick the wrong MOS or (job) in the military are just got fucked and had to do it... but no matter what you should be ready to be called to do your part no matter what your job is in the military
 
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^Dori_FC09 is on point. Still even if the civs were not involved it is the freakin terrorists that dont care and will use them as a cover to keep their fight going and people will get hurt in the middle of it. Our soldiers have to deal with this every night and day and for that I am grateful. These soldiers will have to deal with mental ramifications of shooting terrorists and women and children for the rest of their own life just so the people back stateside can sleep in peace and have a clear mind not to worry about it.

Hooyah Navy, Oooorah Marine Corp and the rest of the services.
 
there is alot that can be said and i may have said to much already but its the truth man, and im with japan101, i dont go tell people how bad we got it when they bitch about how this country doesnt do shit for them and all that good shit... but if they only knew the shit alot of soliders do over here for them, they would shit a chicken man.... i love what i do and i would keep doing it if it means that everyone back home is safe.
 
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