going ka-t

240jw

Understeer King
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i plan to start piecing together turbo components in the next few weeks to get my ka-t. i'm thinking a t3 is looking really good, plenty of power without a buttload of lag. so my question is: what do you think of using a z31 turbo?
that is, assuming i can find one. i'm kinda hesitant considering its 17+ years old... has anyone had any experience with this? Suggestions? and no...SR is out of my price range, sadly.
 
charlie a.k.a. chuck said:
why save up for sr, but if you want buy ali's turbo mani.

hmm ali's mani flange will fit t3? .
and witht he money i save instead of going SR i can use for a fmic, bigger injectors, and some suspension shit ineed
 
dont forget afc, turbo, fuel pump, oil lines, someone to tap your oil pan, waist gate, down pipe, boost controller, intercooler,intercooler piping, bov, and most of all a spair motor for starters.
 
charlie a.k.a. chuck said:
dont forget afc, turbo, fuel pump, oil lines, someone to tap your oil pan, waist gate, down pipe, boost controller, intercooler,intercooler piping, bov, and most of all a spair motor for starters.
:p
 
smart guy for the price you'll get an SR you'll have a KA that has higher horsepower and MONSTEROUS amunt of torque(for a 4 cyl)
 
your going to put a turbo in a motor that wasnt ment for forced induction, if nissan wanted to put a tubo in a ka they wouldove built it for a turbo. i say save up for a sr, fuel pump, master clutch cylner, cluctch pedal and lines and drive shaft and youll be ok witha side mount and stock boost.
 
suislide240sx said:
smart guy for the price you'll get an SR you'll have a KA that has higher horsepower and MONSTEROUS amunt of torque(for a 4 cyl)

and the ability to blow up... why not spend some more money on suspension instead of piecing together a turbo kit for a KA that more than likely will end up being more expensive than a SR. You think it will be cheaper but in reality they are pretty much right there, you will need some tuning which you are going to have to pay for. Why dont yo ask the KA-T guys how much they have spent so far.....

Lets see how much is a KA-t
Turbo (new, cause is your fucking engine why go with something used) (Garrett t3) www.cheapturbo.com = 650-750
Super AFC = 350.00
Manifold (good Manifold not that SS crap) Ranging from 300 - 600
Injectors = (dont go with sr20det injectors) 250-500
oil lines= 75.00
Waste gate= 65-200
Down pipe = 100- 350
BOV = 50-200
Tuned ECU= 200-500
Intercooler & piping - Hybrid from ebay =400-550
spare Ka24de = 200-500
Spare MAF = 50-120

Plus tunning cost and dyno runs; which we are going to say 300 bucks

you are looking at a good 3000-4500 well built Turbo kit, and thats not adding the price a of a decent engine rebuilt. I am no one to deter you from following your dreams of a KA-t but in my eyes you dont need power to drift and what makes a car fun is its handling not the amount of horse power under the hood. Look at Elise for example, or the miatas you see at the auto X.


I am not starting a KA vs. SR thread because i hate them, i am just letting you know that there is lots of thing that should be done to a 240 before boost or power. I am pretty sure you havent even change you bushings, you are still driving around on an open diff or a J30 VLSD. Before you think about power think about other things. so if someone starts a whole KA vs. SR shitty war i will delete their post. You will notice that i didnt mention nothing about the SR in my post.
 
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a,thought I do love my KA-T , It does cost alot of money if you want it done rite. My altima is KA-T and I have spent a bus load of money on it. I was dumb though and bought the whole kit from turbonetics, when I could have peiced it all together. The kit alone cost $4000. I then went to an Standalone ECU. I use the AEM EMS which I was the 2nd altima ever to use the system and I have yet to see the dyno. I also have AME 3.5 bar map sensor and wide band O2 .I have beat 2 SR's with it on 8psi only. My block is stock except for cams and flywheel. If you don't want to invest alot of time and money to get the most out of your KA then swap for an SR>>
 
charlie a.k.a. chuck said:
your going to put a turbo in a motor that wasnt ment for forced induction, if nissan wanted to put a tubo in a ka they wouldove built it for a turbo. i say save up for a sr, fuel pump, master clutch cylner, cluctch pedal and lines and drive shaft and youll be ok witha side mount and stock boost.


rb's werent ment to go in 240's, 2j's werent ment to go in 240's sr's werent designed for turbos bigger that a t-28 but we go bigger anyway so whats your point??? :rolleyes:
 
my point is your puting a turbo on a na motor, the 2j's and rb's are tubo motors, the ka isnt. im not talking about the motor and car combo, im talking about the motor and induction combo. ask rick, he's had a ka-t for awhile and hell tell you to get a sr, eh i dont want a ka-t vs sr battle again.
what im saying to joe is get a sr or spend 2k get some suspension work and go 5speed with a lightend flywheel and a good clutch
 
I agree w/ spending money on suspension. lets say i do get the SR, and i happen to blow it up.. thats $1,800+ gone down the drain. KA's are around $200+. i dont have a lot of money so to ME the KA route would be better. Where would you get all the general parts for a SR? You can't exactly go to a auto store like you culd for a KA.

I'm not trying to start a ka vs. sr battle cuz there's no need for that Both are great engines. But one has the convinience to be born in the USA.
 
ugh this thread blows just like every other thread that has anything to do with KA-T and SR.

Bottom line NEITHER is better, i dont care what you have to say. Neither is going to be realiable without proper maintainence, tuning, and money; plain and simple. I have a KA-T and i love everything about it, i am not afriad to beat on it everytime i drive my car, i just never bring it to any meets :-\ lol. Both are awsome platforms neither of which you can afford to half ass , unless you want to be doing everything all over again.

Price wise you can have either honestly for around the same price. There is not set price for either though, because as we all know you can go on dozens of other forums looking for parts you need and get them for ALOT less then what you would spend from companies. Whichever way you go it is going to cost alot of money to tune either one for big power. Both can easily make alot of power realiably just depends on how much money you have available to you to get there.

Oh and please do not attempt to come at me with this KA-T's blow up bullshit. And the turbo on an NA motor isnt really much of an argument, because that just comes down to tuning with any motor...

IMO if you need to ask other people what you want for a KA-T set up then it usually is not for you. I choose to go KA-T because i liked the way the power was delivered and i loved my healthy KA i have lol. If i had a high mileage poorly running KA i would have been SR instead.
 
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TurboDreams954 said:
ugh this thread blows just like every other thread that has anything to do with KA-T and SR.

Bottom line NEITHER is better, i dont care what you have to say. Neither is going to be realiable without proper maintainence, tuning, and money; plain and simple. I have a KA-T and i love everything about it, i am not afriad to beat on it everytime i drive my car, i just never bring it to any meets :-\ lol. Both are awsome platforms neither of which you can afford to half ass , unless you want to be doing everything all over again.

Price wise you can have either honestly for around the same price. There is not set price for either though, because as we all know you can go on dozens of other forums looking for parts you need and get them for ALOT less then what you would spend from companies. Whichever way you go it is going to cost alot of money to tune either one for big power. Both can easily make alot of power realiably just depends on how much money you have available to you to get there.

Oh and please do not attempt to come at me with this KA-T's blow up bullshit. And the turbo on an NA motor isnt really much of an argument, because that just comes down to tuning with any motor...

IMO if you need to ask other people what you want for a KA-T set up then it usually is not for you. I choose to go KA-T because i liked the way the power was delivered and i loved my healthy KA i have lol. If i had a high mileage poorly running KA i would have been SR instead.
i agree with rob ive blown 2 sr's...tuning is key
 
theres a shitload of motors that werent meant to be turboed out of the factory but have been....so thats the weakest arguement ive heard. as for going KA-T....nice decision to go against the grain, although im not sure that these days anything is against the grain, cuz its all been done
 
going against the grain would be like putting a CA,13b,4AGE,f20 into a s chassis

as for motors not ment for turbo...look at all the honda boys running around.
 
Listen i know this guy, he doesnt have alot money on his hands and his 240 is his daily driver. Now i dont want him to blow his motor or have somthing to go wrong on his daily so my suggestion is not to do it.
And we're talking about reliability here so all other crazy boost shit is not my cup of tea in regaurding a daily driver. But what the hell if you, Joe if you want to turbo your ka do it, its not my car its yours.
I posted the list of things you need to have it running semi good, so there...

my 2 cents
 
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