going ka-t

all motors blow reguardless, and no one mentioned a crazy boost set-up we... well i simply stated either route he goes it will cost money to keep it realiable. if your so concerned about his and his car's well being why arent you convincing him that I/H/E, a good radiator,fans, underdrive pullie, flywheel and clutch are far more realiable and very adequate for drifting and auto-x. like Dudocious said you need power to drift and i agree very strongly with him when he said that good suspension is alot more fun to drive with.
 
Although I am all for Ka-t's, I agree with charlie. drop in an SR boosting 12lbs with the stock ecu will run you no problems (atleast from my experiances). Most of my friends have SR's in thier cars and they rag on them things like no ones business and they run perfect. Stock everything. no tunning, running 12 lbs, daily drivers.
 
Charlie, I hate to break it to you but an SR is not invincible. Mentioning proper tunning goes for both engines. If your friend blows his SR then what? Ka's are $350 at the junxyard.

As far as not meant for turbo i dunno... I dissagree. Obviously, Nissan did not put a turbo on a Ka but, the way the motor is designed leads me to believe that that thought crossed there mine more then a few times. Also, Ka-t's blowing is overated. Just go on ka-t.org so u can see the power we pull off our Ka-t's with no problems what so ever. Tunning.
 
thats why i changed my direction and said to stay n/a and get that autotrgic transmission out and put a 5 speed transmission in... n/a ftw regaurding reliability... let me correct that stock n/a ftw. ok im tired of reapeating my self, for now on if any one say that im wrong and i shouldnt say he shouldnt get a sr or some other shit that i sayed in the past im just going to post this comment. NO MORE KA VS SR!!!
 
Under_Control said:
Charlie, I hate to break it to you but an SR is not invincible. Mentioning proper tunning goes for both engines. If your friend blows his SR then what? Ka's are $350 at the junxyard.

As far as not meant for turbo i dunno... I dissagree. Obviously, Nissan did not put a turbo on a Ka but, the way the motor is designed leads me to believe that that thought crossed there mine more then a few times. Also, Ka-t's blowing is overated. Just go on ka-t.org so u can see the power we pull off our Ka-t's with no problems what so ever. Tunning.
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KA's were not meant for a turbo regardless of what anyone speculates. A problem with boosting KA's is that they're old. Piston rings go out on em all the time mainly b/c the ring land design is weak - proper tune or not, old KA's blow. A built KA however, is a completely different story.
 
TurboDreams954 said:
IMO if you need to ask other people what you want for a KA-T set up then it usually is not for you.
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well first of all i was asking the opinion of using a turbo X years old, not what kind of turbo. i know what i want, and i wasnt asking for a setup

CHARLIE i may do just that.. seeing as how having my engine rebuilt PLUS all turbo'ing it would be outta my price range just like the SR.

and guys i would definately go with an SR if it just required saving up for a little bit. but with the way the situation is, i wont have that much more money for probably like 9 months+. and even then i might not have enough.

i have around $2500 to spend, and as chuck said this is my daily, and i need it to get to school/work so i cant afford a blown motor or any unplanned down time.

DUDOCIUS said:
i am just letting you know that there is lots of thing that should be done to a 240 before boost or power. I am pretty sure you havent even change you bushings, you are still driving around on an open diff or a J30 VLSD. Before you think about power think about other things.
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that is true. i def need rear camber adjustments, bushings, lsd (yea yea), camber plate and some more stiffness IE sway bars and a 5 speed swap
so this whole power adder project may be put on hiatus for a while so i can prioritize
 
Tonymac said:
KA's were not meant for a turbo regardless of what anyone speculates. A problem with boosting KA's is that they're old. Piston rings go out on em all the time mainly b/c the ring land design is weak - proper tune or not, old KA's blow. A built KA however, is a completely different story.
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qouted FTMF truth!! like i said i boosted my car BUT it was rebuilt when i got it lol. if and when mine pops built here i come.

dude if you dont want down time then dont mod your car lol. not being a dick but being realistic the more you mod the more stress your putting on parts reguardless if your tune is factory with bolt-ons like exhuast and intake ect or you have an SR with a stock turbo (T25/T28) with the boost upped with full exhuast ect...its more stress on the motor to perform at a higher capacity then factory...an SR or a KA or a CA with over 100k miles is old period and you run a risk with modding any motor.



charlie a.k.a. chuck said:
i told him if he wants to stay ka go 5speed and get good suspension and stuff. but i tired of this thread. no more posting in this one for me.
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that seems like a GREAT route. i didnt even try think about boost until i was confident with my cars handling and over performance. i would deff push him that direction.


PINER - I FUCKING LOVE THE REVVING CA :p
 
240jw said:
i plan to start piecing together turbo components in the next few weeks to get my ka-t. i'm thinking a t3 is looking really good, plenty of power without a buttload of lag. so my question is: what do you think of using a z31 turbo?
that is, assuming i can find one. i'm kinda hesitant considering its 17+ years old... has anyone had any experience with this? Suggestions? and no...SR is out of my price range, sadly.
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well to answer your question, the z31 turbo is really common with good response, but good tuning for the ka is necessary. old motor, with high compression, and you wanting to boost is not the best idea in the world, however i like KA's, especially KA-T but have nothing against SR. 2.4 on boost to me is better the 2.0 anyday. t25 and t28 are smaller and have less lag because of their size, but are easier to obtain and have good results. i have a video of a guy on a t25 running 8lbs that ran a 13.5. on stock internals. forged internals are a better option. arias sell there 8.8:1 pistons for 449, but i dont know what you have planned for the future, however im going ka-t, after my 5 speed swap, on my motor with 160K on the clock. just go to www.ka-t.org that site will help a lot. it helped me a whole lot. hopefully you have another form of transportation for the down time, that you might suffer. hope this helps
 
I will discourage you from getting a strait t3. Sure you wont have the so called "lag" but let me give you some insight about he trade off of a t3 vs a t3\t4. The t3 may start making boost by 2500 rpm, but its an easy torque curve which is limited because the turbo dose not want to flow lots of air. My turbo (t3 .63a\r \t04e 60 trim) makes full boost now around 3600 with a tubular manifold. I absolutely prefer the peaky power that starts at 3500 and hits hard opposed to a linear power band from 2500. Oh oh oh the turbo lag, guys listen if you are driving your car hard on a race track or at the drift event you better not have your rpms under 3500 or you are doing some thing really wrong. Now if a turbo made full boost at 5k, that is lag that is only suitable for a track only drag car with nitrous.

I am positive I could drop my full boost rpm to about 3300 if i made shorter intercooler pipe runs and controlled my boost with an electronic boost controller.

A friend of mine has a t3 on his ka, it is hard for him to make 300whp. at 15 psi he is probably making 280-290whp (enthalpy tuned). If i had the supporting mods I can make 400-425ish whp all day long with more torque in the power band. I will wait the extra 600 rpm for full boost to have the extra available power, and make more power at lower boost levels.
 
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