New D1GP judge added today - Adam Andretti

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In some news that I don’t quite know how to present to you D1GP USA has added a judge to the roster, Adam Andretti. In a pure blatant attempt to lend the hype of the Andretti family name they have appointed him a judge in the series. The whole PR issued to the media has nothing to with him and his expertise on Drifting or why he wished to be involved in the series.
After doing our homework we found that he has run in the IPS (farm to the IRL series) in which his best finish was 18th (of 22) in 2007. He crashed during this race and shortly after announced a team for 2008 but never ran a race. It all seems interesting but we liked the first list of judges way better that offered people with expertise and credibility in the Drifting scene. Clearly we are not the only people underwhelmed by this announcement as a quick glance over at Drifting.com echos even worse praises on the new D1GP judge.
More comments on new judge: http://www.drifting.com/forums


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He will be judging line and over all impression which he propably dont know anything about ????? ouh wait !!??? Line i heard that is pretty important in road racing as well??? Oh wait judging the overall is Hard?? NOT really since anyone can see if they are all out or not.
dont forget to see that most of the judging will be done by the Drift Box not by humans.
Finally the sport has a small change of becoming a real MOTORSPORT which no judged motorsport will ever be unless they can get hard data to back up their rulings, which the drift box should provide, atleast I hope it will, otherwise drifting will remain a show (like Monster trucks) rather than a real motorsport.
The way I see it drifting has two ways of progressing the sport
1. keep it a show (Like X-Games, Monster trucks, any judged sport with Politics)
2. Make it into real motorsport (which is what D1, FD are trying to push for, but with out the help of any hard data all the other real Motorsport drivers, WRC, F1, ALMS, GT etc... wont take it seriously)

So make your selection you can only choose one.
 
im all for making stuff valid but I could judge whether or not i like a bmx run without really knowing if the guy nailed it right or at a high level of difficulty.

no one would trust Emeril building a bridge- hes a chef, not an engineer.

i just hope there is no 'go outside here and touch that clip with the rear while touching the one 30ft away with the front... well we can't really see that point anyways so, just make it look good while doing both'.
 
I mean Most of the people on this forum are better qualified for the job, I don't like it when they apoint people simply because of their last name vs. actual experience. I mean judging is important and you ideally would want to have someone up there who has experience competing to know the ins and outs of the sport and what to look for than having to learn the first few events. to be honest I would rather have nick hogan up there judging than this guy.
 
Piner said:
I mean Most of the people on this forum are better qualified for the job, I don't like it when they apoint people simply because of their last name vs. actual experience. I mean judging is important and you ideally would want to have someone up there who has experience competing to know the ins and outs of the sport and what to look for than having to learn the first few events. to be honest I would rather have nick hogan up there judging than this guy.
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Come on Paul you are actually telling me that anyone in drifting knows more about line than this guy who has been roadracing for 15 years? Drifters dont know anything abot driving line compared to real road racers. I personally think that bringing a big name into the sport is good, because it will bring new potential sponsors and people into the sport, which we need.

I say it again the hardest thing to judge on drifting is Angle and speed which will be done by the Driftbox not by human the human Judging is only 25% of the total score, and he is more qualified to judge line than anyone in FD judge line up or NOPI line up PERIOD!! I believe FD's headjudge for -09 is Ernie Fixmer?????? Right??
 
yeah but most of the time the "best looking line" is different from the fastest line. I mean if you go by most correct line people would have been running the redbull course's first turn as a double apex instead of riding the wall the whole way through the turn. Which is more badass looking? scraping the wall with your back bumper through the whole corner or just going outside inside outside.

So what about ernie? guy has been in and around the sport since like 2001 when he was stationed over in okinawa. I mean he's been around the sport since D1 began and before most all of us even knew it was a sport.
 
Ok so you ae voting for a show not a competiton. FD and D1 have to change their ways in oder to comply with the show aspect.
And at the redbull they had rear clipping point which he should understand, if not well then I agree with you but for now I will disagree since he knows more about line than anyone in difting at US.
 
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Ok so you ae voting for a show not a competiton. FD and D1 have to change their ways in oder to comply with the show aspect.
And at the redbull they had rear clipping point which he should understand, if not well then I agree with you but for now I will disagree since he knows more about line than anyone in difting at US.
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which would support my opinion of J-Lowes line at the FDC qualifier. A proper line isnt just for the turn you are in but the line throught the whole track. J-lowes line was perfect if you are going by the Red bull style or any oval track event i've seen(outside line until the turn in point). But paul is right a proper line(fastest way thought a track) would be a double apex at redbull. I've seen people pass during tandem runs and lose to a slower driver going wide. If the fastest line is the right one why did the guy passing lose. In D1 if you get on the inside of the lead driver you are rewarded. The event i did at Willowsprings the judges would say you were off the line if you were way inside of the other driver.
 
Ter-Tech said:
Ok so you ae voting for a show not a competiton. FD and D1 have to change their ways in oder to comply with the show aspect.
And at the redbull they had rear clipping point which he should understand, if not well then I agree with you but for now I will disagree since he knows more about line than anyone in difting at US.
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why not get ryan hampton as a judge, hes done both. Guy has been racing in SCCA road racing since he was 18 hes 30 something now(almost longer than this kid has been alive) and was in FD since the start. He isnt sliding right now, much better in my mind to be judging line.


My biggest point is that they picked someone with a famous grandfather over someone from the community
 
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Really even if he IS able to determine line, why go outside of the drifting community that has PLENTY of qualified people. and If he knows line so well, why is his best finish 18 of 22 drivers lol. i'm not trying to hate on the guy, im sure he has some knowledge he could lay on me.

the guy might be cool but really seems they picked an unsual person for the spot. have a guy who knows what its like to control a slide on a line, makes it better for him to judge. i can nearly ALWAYS tell you 99% correct line through a course, doesnt mean I can drift it though.

I'm just glad Cali gets the first shot at it, so we can see how it unfolds. we might all change our minds after that.
 
I mean you talk like where are no pro racing drivers among the drift community, Ryan has actually won races

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=151048&FS=SCCA

I mean Hiro sumida and Taka aono have both won SCCA solo II national championships but they wouldnt know anything about line since those are just cones

face it the only reason he is being chosen is because of his last name, thats just freaking stupid. I wish my last name was gurney or bonderaunt or Hakkinen
 
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I think the plan is to try and bring in some new sponsors and new blood into the sport since economy is not very strong right now. And bringing in a big name is always good. Look at Travis Pastrana guy f******ing sucks as a rally driver yet they give him a car and let him compete in US and even one race in WRC (but only once since they lost their face). yet when he went to the WRC he was in last place behind JRC and N group cars which are fricking stock??? second last place was Ken Block or Brock or what ever his name is. my point is they are sponsored by redbull or Monster drinks and bring a huge crowd with them. Why did they give him a car? was it his name Maybe??? Because it most certainly is NOT his driving skills. Keep in mind that this is a business for D1 and FD they are there for the money not for the pleasure of it. Economy is making them do anything to keep people talking and coming to the events. There is no such an thing as negative publicity good or bad doesn't matter since people talk about you. Lets wait and see who are the other judges.
 
Hey, I drift to have alot of fun.



I could careless if this guy is a judge or not....cause im willing to bet money, that im gonna have the best goddamn time of my life driving my car if this guy is judging me or not.
 
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I mean you talk like where are no pro racing drivers among the drift community, Ryan has actually won races

http://www.motorsport.com/news/article.asp?ID=151048&FS=SCCA

I mean Hiro sumida and Taka aono have both won SCCA solo II national championships but they wouldnt know anything about line since those are just cones

face it the only reason he is being chosen is because of his last name, thats just freaking stupid. I wish my last name was gurney or bonderaunt or Hakkinen
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well you are wrong...
 
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