Tony Brakohiapa Blames Judges for not Qualifying in Las Vegas

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Formula Drift Las Vegas as far as controversy goes was pretty light if you compare it against other rounds this season like Wall Speedway. Tony Brakohiapa doesn’t agree with this lack luster of controversy if you read his eBay motors blog post on the weekend. Most of my personal memories of this car/the team this weekend is the engine laying all over the pits and I couldn’t even recall a single run the car actually made through the race weekend. Apparently he did attempt to qualify and failed to make the Top 32. Below in the block quote is what Tony reported on the race and his results. Read his review of the race and let us know what you think!

My last practice run would prove be near fatal (for the car, not me). As I’m finishing my run I notice an immediate loss in power. I look at all my gauges. Everything reads normal. I fear it’s the supercharger cog belt, yet again. I limp the eBay Motors Mustang back to our pit. The cog belt is intact and still attached! It’s in fact the cog pulley at the bottom of the engine that’s bolted to the crank pulley that has broken all six studs off! We were all scratching our heads on this one! No one had ever seen a break like this before! Certainly a result of pushing 1,000 HP and eventually finding a weakness on the engine. The good thing was the internals of the engine were fine. With some time and hardware, a short-term fix could get me through qualifying.

My crew finds new bolts for the crank pulley. Though we can only use three bolts instead of the six due to some broken studs being difficult to extract. The guys feel it’s just strong enough to get me one, maybe two qualifying runs. We were already making preparations for a more permanent fix once qualifying was over.

I line up for my first run. I enter in 4th gear, come in with good speed and angle, hit my clipping points, and put off some good smoke on the infield. Just as I’m about to finish my run, I notice something let go on the engine. My power is reduced, but enough to let me finish off the last corner. I score a surprisingly low 68.

The short-term fix was extremely short-term. I don’t think anyone even noticed I broke on my run because it was near the very end. I jump on my radio and tell the guys we have a problem and meet at the pit! I pull in the pit, the crew has “that look” on their face as they see the temporary bolts did not hold. The question now was, will it get fixed in time for a second qualifying run. The short answer…no! The damage was too great this time around, but we did have time to fix it through the night and next morning…if I qualified.

Nonetheless, The crew pushes to fix the car to try and get me a second qualifying run. I would undoubtedly score better with a second qual run helping secure my place for Top 32. While they are doing that, I am watching the other drivers qualify. I’m keeping tabs on scores and how good the runs are to see where I will end up. My second run is about to come up but I’m still standing in the spotters stand. I gesture to Jarod the M.C. that my crew is working on my car, that it’s still broken and I won’t make a second run.

Qualifying was over and I’d been bumped from Top 32 After seeing a fair amount of drivers struggle to put in good qualifying runs, I’m confused as to their scores being noticeable higher then mine given all their corrections. Now, I’m not saying my run was perfect. I could have been a bit closer to the last outer clipping point and my line was a little shallow entering the infield portion. It felt (as other people watching remarked and after looking at the video replay) like a mid-to high 70’s run. More than enough to qualify for Top 32.

The team and myself approach the judges as to their justification of my score relative to other drivers. We ask to compare my run with other drivers via video playback. The judges said they would be happy to review my score with us, but they couldn’t change my score since it was already locked in.

We select a particular drivers’ run that we felt was similar to my run, but actually made more corrections, but still scored 12 points higher. After looking at both runs over and over and getting some commentary from one judge as to my line being a bit off, there was no discernable difference that warranted a 12 point advantage to the other driver. There was a remark from another judge about a “major correction” during my run. After video playback, no judge could point out said major correction.

After the “review” was over we thanked the judges for their time and walked back to our pit. There wasn’t anything else we could do, but our point had been made. We felt the score was low given other drivers very similar yet higher scored runs.

We hope the professional and diplomatic process in which we approached the judges and reviewed the qualifying runs will somehow improve their “in the moment” judging. Although time intensive, one suggestion could be using the instant replay resources they have to warrant a more comprehensive review of qualifying runs before final scores are given.

Source: http://www.ebaymotorsblog.com/looking-for-lady-luck-at-formula-drift-las-vegas/


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However you want to look at it.. wrecked is just reporting what he wrote on his blog. I don't see what the big deal is....

At this point the FD "Judging" is a dead horse... and this is just one more log to add to that fire.
 
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Whats cool is how Tony Brakohiapa handled it all calm and stuff. I don't think anything could really be improved with this tbh, do all drift series's have judging issues like FD?
 
Wish there was a way for this sport to not rely on judges for scoring, but I guess this stuff in unavoidable. Happens in all judged sports, just gotta roll with it.
 
1000hp?! maybe drive better first off. I would've NEVER guessed he had that much power. of course, as his team learned- reliability > power.

but I understand where he is coming from. We watched in shock at a few scores being way lower than similar and sometimes worse runs. Tony Angelo got a gift from the gods, Chris Ward did too. Denofa's first run was a rip-off score, and thats about all I recall.
 
yeah they run anywhere between 800-1000 depending on the track i was in shock when they told me how much power they had i thought they were maybe putting down 500 max
 
Wish there was a way for this sport to not rely on judges for scoring, but I guess this stuff in unavoidable. Happens in all judged sports, just gotta roll with it.

There is it is called Driftbox with some more time to develop it perfect it would work flawless. But then you couldnt control who wins and who doesnt?? So thats a no no.
it is a SHOW not a competition??? just remember that and you will be much happier in life. LOL
Sweden rules!
 
This is something I found randomly a little while back and seems to be the closest thing to a solution for all these judging issues. Nothing will be perfect and telemetry assisted judging can have problems too but it's a start. I'll leave this here for discussion.


Spydrift System : a fully customized telemetry system for drifting, this system use tri-axis sensor, G sensor and GPS sensor, gathering information up to 50 times per second with an accuracy of 10cm. This system also uses live transmission over UMTS network, removing all data transmission issues that radio waves can have in racing environment.

All tracks(permanent or temporary) are GPS-mapped, start line, finish line, start of judging area, clippoints. For qualifications, the system works on its own giving the points based on the line (average distance from the clippoints), speed (average speed on the track), angle (average angle during the lap). Judges can give the extra show points. For battles, judging will rely on the same package of detailed information, adding some extra features like the average gap between the 2 cars during the battle, as well as automatic understeering detection to take the final decision.

Source:
http://www.kingofeurope.net/2012/index.php/drift/telemetry
 
The drift box told me I got 98* of angle in Miami.....I had stock knuckles and drove straight after the first corner.
 
yea i recall having something at like 128* without a spin... i think it missed/delayed a reading and it ended up being akward.

I heard that the D1USA judging was like 80% drift box the first event and then it kept being counted for less of the total as more and more problems/inconsistencies.
 
yea i recall having something at like 128* without a spin... i think it missed/delayed a reading and it ended up being akward.

I heard that the D1USA judging was like 80% drift box the first event and then it kept being counted for less of the total as more and more problems/inconsistencies.

As I said it needs some more fine tuning!
Step one is that it would need to be solid mounted so the shaking or the Wing Wang wongs cant hit it any more while driving to cause the machine to register wrong.
It has potential to add steering angle and up to 32 additional sensors like throttle position, brakes switch etc... which you could add in to the judging software. with some testing and fine tuning it would be pretty much flawless.
It also works perfect on tandem due to GPS sensors being able to detect the distance between the two cars with in few inches. should be easy to write program for that as well.
If you want Drifting to become a real motorsport that is the only option PERIOD. If you want it to stay a SHOW keep judges! There is nothing else to say about it.
I HEARD THAT SWEDEN RULES!!!! LOL!!
 
^^ there is a GREAT app on android for like 10$ that does a whole shit load of stuff and reads OBDII. the one for iphone is like 60$. reads via bluetooth hooked on your OBDII port.
 
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