You know what really grinds MY gears?

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Erick Mahle
Driver
Since I'm on a roll here with this, let me keep at it.

People who swear drifting going mainstream is a bad thing.

Come on! Those who swear drifting should have stayed underground are usually the ones who complain that drifting is such an expensive sport. Mainstream makes things cheaper as more people come in and show interest. More interest, more $$ invested, cheaper it turns out in the end.

If drifting didnt become mainstream, Florida's legal drifting scene would have been doomed.

"But there's still the streets you rich bimmer boy"

Yea but that's not helping anyone. I street slide, people can vouch for that. Am I proud of it? In some aspects. But when it comes down to promoting events, I do everything possible to help out. I would rather pay for an event where I can feel a lot safer and keep pushing my limits for an entire day rather than wait for cops to come and break the party.

So stop being the cool "anti-mainstream" and calling yourself OG just because you were here before drifting became popular and accept it.... better yet, promote it!

/rant
 
i agree i want drifting to become as popular as it can for all the reasons u just mentioned that would be stupid to try and keep it underground if skateboarding was just underground tony hawk would be some guy who can do cool tricks but will amount to nothing for it seriously WTF?
 
PlatanoDrifter said:
i agree i want drifting to become as popular as it can for all the reasons u just mentioned that would be stupid to try and keep it underground if skateboarding was just underground tony hawk would be some guy who can do cool tricks but will amount to nothing for it seriously WTF?
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tony hawk ftw and +1 to this thread. mainstream = more money to do cool shit with, SUCH AS events
 
I agree. It helps in multiple ways as said before. The most important thing is the direction of where its heading. It needs a postitive look, the media seems to look to make anything motorsport related bad. It just needs whoever is in charge to know drifting, have a passion for it like the drivers/fans do and keep it going in a positive direction.
 
so wuts up with the ricers hanging out at opalocka...????now that spots fucked....wuts next....i like it being promoted more and stuff of course....but just not a fan of shit getting ruined cuz of others....as stuff usually does.... in the ned more exposure...more events i guess.....which if gravy by me events ftw
 
Triangle isnt ruined. I was there a couple nights ago with some friends. We were the only ones there, No cops, No "ricers"....

+1 for this thread. I agree with everything Eric mentioned. Also, Mainstream = harder to go pro... :bigthumbu
 
m4nfred said:
so wuts up with the ricers hanging out at opalocka...????now that spots fucked
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itz funny cause itd b lik 20 ricers n 3 of us drifting and we hav the only rwd's there haha
 
m4nfred said:
so wuts up with the ricers hanging out at opalocka...????now that spots fucked....wuts next....i like it being promoted more and stuff of course....but just not a fan of shit getting ruined cuz of others....as stuff usually does.... in the ned more exposure...more events i guess.....which if gravy by me events ftw
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I never said promote what you do on the side. Promote the events... that's what the whole mainstream focuses on (and they arent wrong for it). Street sliding is something we do on our own and we dont need a crowd for that.
 
Its a catch 22. Going mainstream is good for parts, prices, and events.

Going mainstream is bad too and for a multitude of reasons - cops, bad publicity, and ricers just to name a few.

When the import industry itself was blowing up, "OG's" bitched that we were all doomed. Now look what the import industry has done for us - domestic Time Trials, drifting, and cars like Evo's for sale in the US. If it weren't for the import fanatics of yester-year, I highly doubt we'd have all this fun stuff here in the great ole USA.
 
I've yet to get a ticket for drifting WHEN they can clearly see I am doing so in an abandoned environment to try and keep things as safe as possible.

Those bad sides can be worked on... and as for bad publicity, it's up to us to show the good publicity to everyone. Underground drifting doesnt make the news, but sanctioned events do. That's where we have to show everyone that comes watch that it is a safe and controlled environment.
 
You're being a bit of an idealist now don't you think? There are plenty of bads - come visit a wpb "drift meet" and you'll see why. OK, you may be responsible enough to practice at abandoned parking lots but not everybody is. You may also have been able to get lucky with tickets, but not everybody will. And If there ever comes a time when that one idiot - you know, that guy who was planning on going to college to become a pro-bono doctor - drives off the edge of a mountain because of what he saw in TFaTF3 or that other idiot who runs into a pregnant handicapped woman who was limping to the bus stop to make the 2nd shift of her 3rd job, we will all be in for a big change.

I guess I don't really have a point since I don't give a rat's ass about mainstream, being an OG, or any of that bs. I'm just trying to say that what we are in (IMO) is the golden age of drifting. Enjoy it while you can because as history teaches us, golden ages don't last forever.
 
I can't really comment much on the "OG" ways of drifting as I have only recently gotten into it - but it seems like there's always a group of "elitist" who, no matter what, will always be caught up in their ego...superiority...whatever.

Anyway, the biggest advantage that I see to drifting getting bigger and receiving more exposure is that we, the drivers, will get MORE events like the one we just had on Saturday...and that, in my book, is an awesome thing. Not only that but it will also give those who want to learn or get into it a place to do it without having to do it the same way many of us have...going out late-late and finding some decent spots to tear up...

I think the biggest thing that will come from this is if we can put drifting in a positive light for the "normal people" - the kinds that just show up to see what it is - we'll be able to get a lot of respect from the general public...

Also, like anything in the world - as the competition gets better so does the skill - better drivers around you will make you a better driver...nothing wrong with that. :)
 
dori dori said:
You're being a bit of an idealist now don't you think? There are plenty of bads - come visit a wpb "drift meet" and you'll see why. OK, you may be responsible enough to practice at abandoned parking lots but not everybody is. You may also have been able to get lucky with tickets, but not everybody will. And If there ever comes a time when that one idiot - you know, that guy who was planning on going to college to become a pro-bono doctor - drives off the edge of a mountain because of what he saw in TFaTF3 or that other idiot who runs into a pregnant handicapped woman who was limping to the bus stop to make the 2nd shift of her 3rd job, we will all be in for a big change.
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Anthony, I completely understand your points, however I generalize through my experiences and what I've seen others. There are those who get cops who wake up on the wrong side of the bed, and there are many of those who do not have the maturity/responsability to practice accordingly when out on the streets. Basically, there are always exceptions.

However, with a bit of an idealist mentality like you said, I think those who find the best way to practice should put out a positive outlook for those who join. Now does that mean I'm going to put a huge banner saying "drift lessons to anyone interested"? No.

But when I'm at it, I have no problem sharing what I've found with others. Especially if I see good intentions from those asking the questions (no attitude, etc).
 
Idealistic mentality led to the soviet union. Human nature means people will always do stupid things, no matter what you do to try to prevent them from occuring. When drifting was small and underground, those morons were few and far between. Now that they're everywhere, problems will arise no matter what you or anyone else does. I'm not saying we shouldn't try to educate and inform, don't get me wrong. I just know its pointless because not everyone wants to listen. I like your attitude though and really hope nothing ever happens.
 
Well, I'm idealistic to a point. The soviet union was a completely different case. I think some idealism is good because it creates an idea to follow.

I agree that human nature will never allow idealism to work... but there are ways to deal with it... like incentives (such as capitalism). If human nature prevailed, nothing would have ever worked and the world would be anarchy.

Even the US has the idea of "life, liberty, and persuit of happyness". Is it an idea that we follow? Yea. Is it perfect? No... the justice system and all that other stuff, including police officers (who can abuse power), etc all make it harder to enforce the ideal.

But we seem to be along the same line. You and I share the same common knowledge and facts.
 
well the way i see it more publicity and poularity of drifting will result in bigger companys makin more events more oftes untill someone withthe bank decides to make a drift track all it takes is enough people to go often and show em that were interested and dedicated to this and they will see money and a reason to build a track im pretty sure the hialeah track died because there wasnt enough people going and they werent makin any money so hopefullt someone will take the risk in opening a track to make the money shit i got awsome ideas for ways to manage a track i just need some help for,m people on ways to set it up and someone with the money all in all the more popular it gets the better for us o and for who ever said that it will make going pro harder we'll if your not good enough your not good enough but if the standards are set high to go pro the paycheck will be even higher if anyone can go pro then you'll get paid like an average joe tell me is it easy to become a pro skateboarder or surfer or snowbarder etc no it takes time practice and 100% dedication to it witch is what makes it all worth it in the end
 
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