Event structure Poll

should the top 16 that gets to tandem be chosen

  • by past events

    Votes: 18 46.2%

  • qualifing for the top 16 against all the drivers.

    Votes: 21 53.8%
  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
Obviously not, because you weren't approved for tandem, and dude stop get all offensive no one is out here to get you. Calm down and don't take things so serious, you'll be a happier person.
 
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Nighthawk said:
Obviously not, because you weren't approved for tandem, and dude stop get all offensive no one is out here to get you. Calm down and don't take things so serious, you'll be a happier person.
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thanks so much for your help. Your experience and knowledge of drifting amazes me.

ps. you make me smile.
 
Buriantsu said:
Your acting like the Tandem groups run close. They run like 10ft. from each other. Hence why I think anyone can tandem, no one runs close to each other.

The closest I've seen is from Ofc. Dangle and Red in the skidpad event twice. Not trying to make an argument with anyone or stating that I'm better. But stating a fact in my eyes.
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Actually one of the reasons for this is the way some people are set up, and what they are drifting with. Ex: I dont have money to buy new tires, so i buy cheap used tires, if i get lucky some times i get myself some decent treadware (140-360) a lot of the time i am out there rocking out 500+ treadware. Even if my line is good, i cant keep up with a guy that has more grip than me. Juan and I had this same discusion once after a tandem, he was following and he was forced to slow down, just because the lack of grip i was having out of my POS used tires. If the car in front has more grip than you, you will have to sacrifice angle to keep up. What is drifting w/o angle? you tell me..... Another reason is how close is the starting line to the turn, everybody has their own way of launching their cars, and some people are slower than others... So by the time you get to the first turn you are either way ahead of the trailing car, or you are way behind the lead car.
I also tend to concentrate more on my driving and getting better than closing the gap with the guy in front of me. I am not getting judge, I payed to practice and to learn, not to be all D1 and trying to get my nose in the other guys door.

Josh like i said before man, calm down man. Listen to Benji (Bladder) he is explaining to you, the reasoning behind why it is done. Just go enjoy yourself, i am pretty sure if you show a high skill level, you will be moved to the tandem group. In my case, I dont have tires to tandem, and this might be my last drift event. So, i will be staying in the solo group, and enjoy it the most.
 
well josh is approved for tandem and has run tandem before thats not why he made this thread, he made it because he feels there are people in solo who run the course better than some of the tandem drivers. I understand what he is getting at but the problem is there is not enough time to have everyone qualify, we didnt have enough time to qualify just the top 16 guys imagine trying to do that with 32+ you would basically not even have time to do tandem at all and turn it into a solo only comp. because each one of those 32+ people has to run 3 laps to qualify mix that in with practice breaking for lunch, and the normal delays that happen there just isnt enough time.


This is why D1 and FD are normally 2 day events with the majority of practice and qualification on the day before the main event and even they have top 16 seeded drivers that dont have to qualify on the practice day and just do their qualifing runs on main day during morning practice on the main event day.
 
Nighthawk said:
Obviously not, because you weren't approved for tandem, and dude stop get all offensive no one is out here to get you. Calm down and don't take things so serious, you'll be a happier person.
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didn't mean to offend anybody, I don't care if I don't tandem, my time will come. back to the show...
 
in either case, you guys might want to try to make it 2 runs for qualifying, take best or avg both. would save about 20-30 min easy. I want to come watch a comp, too frikken far though, you all need to transplant the track northwest about an hour.
 
DUDOCIUS said:
Actually one of the reasons for this is the way some people are set up, and what they are drifting with. Ex: I dont have money to buy new tires, so i buy cheap used tires, if i get lucky some times i get myself some decent treadware (140-360) a lot of the time i am out there rocking out 500+ treadware. Even if my line is good, i cant keep up with a guy that has more grip than me. Juan and I had this same discusion once after a tandem, he was following and he was forced to slow down, just because the lack of grip i was having out of my POS used tires. If the car in front has more grip than you, you will have to sacrifice angle to keep up. What is drifting w/o angle? you tell me..... Another reason is how close is the starting line to the turn, everybody has their own way of launching their cars, and some people are slower than others... So by the time you get to the first turn you are either way ahead of the trailing car, or you are way behind the lead car.
I also tend to concentrate more on my driving and getting better than closing the gap with the guy in front of me. I am not getting judge, I payed to practice and to learn, not to be all D1 and trying to get my nose in the other guys door.

Josh like i said before man, calm down man. Listen to Benji (Bladder) he is explaining to you, the reasoning behind why it is done. Just go enjoy yourself, i am pretty sure if you show a high skill level, you will be moved to the tandem group. In my case, I dont have tires to tandem, and this might be my last drift event. So, i will be staying in the solo group, and enjoy it the most.
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I know more or less why people don't get close to the driver that is leading. They aren't fast enough, tires, and they don't want to crash there cars. Don't get my wrong thats fine but why be in Tandem line up then? If we are going to portray drifting then might as well go with it the whole way and drift closer. And I know you probably speak about yourself or a hand full of drivers that can't get new tires or something with a good amount of thread. But most of the other drivers do get new tires, but then they fall in the category of not being fast enough or not wanting to damage there cars.

I know it will go back and forward but Ive always seen tandem as who can drive closer to the leading car, so leading car can mess up or show there skills. And as I said in my eyes it just doesn't show that in the countyline event or homestead and so on. That's why I say anyone can do it because of the distance that is kept. Forgot to mention. I know its to go out there and have fun but you can't go out there and just do it right? I mean I would love to go out there with a friend and try to get as close as we can to each other without caring what would happen to the car. As its been told many times and times before, if your going to get into drifting expect the worst because the car will get damaged.

-Buriantsu
 
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Buriantsu said:
I know more or less why people don't get close to the driver that is leading. They aren't fast enough, tires, and they don't want to crash there cars. Don't get my wrong thats fine but why be in Tandem line up then? If we are going to portray drifting then might as well go with it the whole way and drift closer. And I know you probably speak about yourself or a hand full of drivers that can't get new tires or something with a good amount of thread. But most of the other drivers do get new tires, but then they fall in the category of not being fast enough or not wanting to damage there cars.

I know it will go back and forward but Ive always seen tandem as who can drive closer to the leading car, so leading car can mess up or show there skills. And as I said in my eyes it just doesn't show that in the countyline event or homestead and so on. That's why I say anyone can do it because of the distance that is kept. Forgot to mention. I know its to go out there and have fun but you can't go out there and just do it right? I mean I would love to go out there with a friend and try to get as close as we can to each other without caring what would happen to the car. As its been told many times and times before, if your going to get into drifting expect the worst because the car will get damaged.

-Buriantsu
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so whens the last time you tandemed at a event if you can get so close to others cars?
 
Buriantsu said:
I know more or less why people don't get close to the driver that is leading. They aren't fast enough, tires, and they don't want to crash there cars. Don't get my wrong thats fine but why be in Tandem line up then? If we are going to portray drifting then might as well go with it the whole way and drift closer. And I know you probably speak about yourself or a hand full of drivers that can't get new tires or something with a good amount of thread. But most of the other drivers do get new tires, but then they fall in the category of not being fast enough or not wanting to damage there cars.

I know it will go back and forward but Ive always seen tandem as who can drive closer to the leading car, so leading car can mess up or show there skills. And as I said in my eyes it just doesn't show that in the countyline event or homestead and so on. That's why I say anyone can do it because of the distance that is kept. Forgot to mention. I know its to go out there and have fun but you can't go out there and just do it right? I mean I would love to go out there with a friend and try to get as close as we can to each other without caring what would happen to the car. As its been told many times and times before, if your going to get into drifting expect the worst because the car will get damaged.

-Buriantsu
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i dont care about crashing, hence why i have a daily driver. I am one of the people who enters fast at countyline, clocked once at 51 mph in the KA. Tandem at countyline is ment to get the driver used to being there with another driver in the track. There are times to get close, if both drivers have enough control. Just because you are not door to door, doesnt make it a tandem. Some of the tandems at countyline the lead car is only 4-8 ft in front, and at times a drivers makes a mistake creating more room between both cars... hence why these events are practice, and all these drivers doing them are not professionals... is like asking for a College baseball player to hit a Roger Clemens fast ball. You should drive an event, I want to see how consistant you are.....
 
Its like estie told me the other day theres two kinds of drivers ones that have crashed and ones that are gonna crash. If your scared to crash dont drift. I have yet to crash at a event but ive came damn close a few times. Ive crashed a bunch of times on the street. Your gonna crash sooner or later its all in how you bounce back from it
 
DUDOCIUS said:
i dont care about crashing, hence why i have a daily driver. I am one of the people who enters fast at countyline, clocked once at 51 mph in the KA. Tandem at countyline is ment to get the driver used to being there with another driver in the track. There are times to get close, if both drivers have enough control. Just because you are not door to door, doesnt make it a tandem. Some of the tandems at countyline the lead car is only 4-8 ft in front, and at times a drivers makes a mistake creating more room between both cars... hence why these events are practice, and all these drivers doing them are not professionals... is like asking for a College baseball player to hit a Roger Clemens fast ball. You should drive an event, I want to see how consistant you are.....
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I'm not picking on you just because I stated my opinion and someone answers the question and I respond it doesn't mean that you are the target. I say this because how you took it.

Now, to my point of view yes everything is practice all the events you go to and so on. How long have you been drifting? Probably many years I don't know you that well. I think by now most drivers that are qualified for Tandem are considered good drifters or at a higher level than the other drivers in the Solo run and I'm not talking about the ones that decide just to stay in the Solo run group. By now you should have the experience and consistency to Tandem at close and high speeds. If not then there needs to be some arrangement in the Tandem groups. But then you state that tandem is just when 2 cars are going at it, at the same time. I thought it would be what Ive always seen on D1, Formula D, and so on... I guess there just doing it wrong.
 
Look pro series are cutthroat competition, local comps are about fun.

Cant have much fun if your car is wrecked or you wreck your buddies car by accident. Nobody is doing anything wrong. Local events are about the drivers, not what the spectators want.
 
Real reasons
First- its not as EASY as you think to get close like that
Second- id rather see 2 guys complete a course than one guy try to stick it int htere and spin.
Third- shit, its hard, thats why they do it in the pros

*i totally touched Dan Chilton at Desoto in tandem lmao, i spun him out though ><

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lol
 
Piner said:
Look pro series are cutthroat competition, local comps are about fun.

Cant have much fun if your car is wrecked or you wreck your buddies car by accident. Nobody is doing anything wrong. Local events are about the drivers, not what the spectators want.
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The events that are held are for the drivers to get better I already understood that. Get better tandeming is what I'm saying. The people that do drift are good in there own ways, thats fine your good at that now go on to Tandem. I understand its not easy but if the pro's can do it why can't you? You don't need sponsors and camera from ESPN shooting your car to get close to each other. Ive street drifted and done the skidpad. When I get my own car you can bet that I wll try to put all the line. Thats the only way to get better.

Example you get a skateboard you can ride it without busting your ass. What comes next? Tricks. Same theory follows here. All I'm saying you guys got drifting on lock then now move to something better Tandem closer.
 
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