FARA DEMO on may 10th

Sup guys my name is kevin The president of IC eventz. Dont know if you know but we are organizing the car show and the drift event. this is not your regular car show. we are expecting 100-300 car/bikes to register. and thousands of spectators to show up to this event. Telemundo will be there filming the event and will interview the racers (including drifters)
We do have a set of new tires for 1st place. and if 10 drifters register we will have a 2nd place winner of dyno time. We decided since nopi lisenced drifters drift for free at morosso. we can let nopi drifter for half price! but will not be qualified to win the set of tires. the time is still 2hrs so if only 5 register that means the 5 drifter will have more time at the track!
I hope i answered all your questions. If any other questions ask and i will answer them asap.
In order to pre-register you need to visit www.ICeventz.com under shows.

 
Kevin,

Thank you for taking the time to post here. I will be honest, I do feel that we are not getting our $100 worth even with your current offer. Allow me to share my points of view. My main concerns are the following:

1-) For $100, how much track time is 2 hours really? If we are allowed to run the track continuously using all of the turns in the track, then we will get two hours of track time because all the cars can run at the same time (Homestead-Miami Speedway definetly has enough room to run 10 cars spread out safely). Two hours of actual track time would be very worth it.

However, if we have to do it as we did last time, each driver will be staging for 10 minutes at a time for a run that lasts 30 seconds. By that math, we'll get only about 6 minutes of actual track time. That's not a lot considering we (speaking for the non-licensed NOPI drifters) pay the same or less, for more track time.

I also believe the main racers, who pay no more than $500 with a late fee, get at least 3-4 hours of track time in the entire weekend. And that is continuous track time. I know we are paying less, but if there is "dollar per seat time" ratio, I'd like the $100 that we're paying to be similar in relation to what the racers are. You guys slotted two hours for us to use on Saturday, I ask you to let us make full use of it.

2-) Another quick detail is the media coverage. Right now drifting is the biggest motorsport online. You can search for hits between drifting and any other racing series to compare. We're leagues away on YouTube from any other search (Nascar, Formula 1, etc). Tim has already managed to get a TV Station to do a feature on his events. Ter-Tech has a signed contract with OctaneTV, who is probably the biggest name in online drifting shows, to come and record their events. So if anything, the presence of drifting at your events would be a tool for you to bring more media to your event (which is what everyone wants, from spectators, to participants, and all the way to the organizers)

3-) Now I do appreciate the free set of tires offer. However, it still doesn't do much for us as I can vouch for any experienced drifter (licensed or not) that we have our own sources for tires, either used for a few bucks a pop, or even new, at a wholesale/discounted price. Some of the drivers you will find even have tire sponsors, and they would have no need or no way to collect the prize due to their contact with the tire company. I'm not trying to put down your offer of a prize, but it I am pretty sure there are many other things we would much rather see as drifters than a free set of tires. I don't think I'm alone to think that we much rather trade that free set of tires (which I'm assuming is not purchased yet so the drifter can choose the size of the tire depending on his or her application), for the continous track time with the ability for tandem driving. And that's only one suggestion. You must remember that you are running an event at the same date as another drift event, with a late notice compared to the other, both equally distant from Broward county (where most drifters seem to reside), and asking for the same amount of money. The licensed drifters already drift up there for free, and Moroso has a great track setup just as Homestead does. So in order to get the proper event attendance, we need something that makes it worth it for us to be there. Free tires are good, but there are other things that we much rather have than just that.

I do thank you for the opportunity for having us there, and for taking the time to hear us out. Hopefully we can show a bit of where we come from so you can have a better idea of what we value the most in order for you to be able to get the best event out there for your spectators and your drivers.

I look forward to what you can work out for us. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm late for a drift event. :)

- Erick
 
rwdrift said:
Kevin,

Thank you for taking the time to post here. I will be honest, I do feel that we are not getting our $100 worth even with your current offer. Allow me to share my points of view. My main concerns are the following:

1-) For $100, how much track time is 2 hours really? If we are allowed to run the track continuously using all of the turns in the track, then we will get two hours of track time because all the cars can run at the same time (Homestead-Miami Speedway definetly has enough room to run 10 cars spread out safely). Two hours of actual track time would be very worth it.

However, if we have to do it as we did last time, each driver will be staging for 10 minutes at a time for a run that lasts 30 seconds. By that math, we'll get only about 6 minutes of actual track time. That's not a lot considering we (speaking for the non-licensed NOPI drifters) pay the same or less, for more track time.

I also believe the main racers, who pay no more than $500 with a late fee, get at least 3-4 hours of track time in the entire weekend. And that is continuous track time. I know we are paying less, but if there is "dollar per seat time" ratio, I'd like the $100 that we're paying to be similar in relation to what the racers are. You guys slotted two hours for us to use on Saturday, I ask you to let us make full use of it.

2-) Another quick detail is the media coverage. Right now drifting is the biggest motorsport online. You can search for hits between drifting and any other racing series to compare. We're leagues away on YouTube from any other search (Nascar, Formula 1, etc). Tim has already managed to get a TV Station to do a feature on his events. Ter-Tech has a signed contract with OctaneTV, who is probably the biggest name in online drifting shows, to come and record their events. So if anything, the presence of drifting at your events would be a tool for you to bring more media to your event (which is what everyone wants, from spectators, to participants, and all the way to the organizers)

3-) Now I do appreciate the free set of tires offer. However, it still doesn't do much for us as I can vouch for any experienced drifter (licensed or not) that we have our own sources for tires, either used for a few bucks a pop, or even new, at a wholesale/discounted price. Some of the drivers you will find even have tire sponsors, and they would have no need or no way to collect the prize due to their contact with the tire company. I'm not trying to put down your offer of a prize, but it I am pretty sure there are many other things we would much rather see as drifters than a free set of tires. I don't think I'm alone to think that we much rather trade that free set of tires (which I'm assuming is not purchased yet so the drifter can choose the size of the tire depending on his or her application), for the continous track time with the ability for tandem driving. And that's only one suggestion. You must remember that you are running an event at the same date as another drift event, with a late notice compared to the other, both equally distant from Broward county (where most drifters seem to reside), and asking for the same amount of money. The licensed drifters already drift up there for free, and Moroso has a great track setup just as Homestead does. So in order to get the proper event attendance, we need something that makes it worth it for us to be there. Free tires are good, but there are other things that we much rather have than just that.

I do thank you for the opportunity for having us there, and for taking the time to hear us out. Hopefully we can show a bit of where we come from so you can have a better idea of what we value the most in order for you to be able to get the best event out there for your spectators and your drivers.

I look forward to what you can work out for us. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm late for a drift event. :)

- Erick
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Erick,

If you can't afford the event, then keep it to yourself. Tim tried his best to get this situated with the event organizer and it is what it is......you complaining and giving him pointers ain't going to do nothing. I believe they have already set their minds up.

Sorry to be an ass but someone had to say it!

-Raffi
 
Did you even read what I said? I'm giving my opinion from a drifter's point of view on how to make the event better for all of us (and by all of us I mean both the organizers, the participants, AND the drifters).

And to better explain myself. Kevin was nice enough to post here and I'm assuming by doing so that he would at least be interested in what we would have to say. I have paid more in the past to get less in event track time, but that does not mean it should always be that way. My comments were my opinions on how to make a fun event for everyone: giving the drifters their time to put on the best show for the crowds to watch, which makes the crowd happy, furthermore making the event organizers happy that their event is such a success.

I even went out of my way to point out some quick research to prove a few of my points. I'm not trying to lie, or get the benefit out of something. If it's not clear by now, I expressed my opinion so that everyone wins. That's how professionals work.

You saying I cannot afford it is B/S. As a drifter you know well enough that we do what we must to get out there on the track, every-single-time. Calling me out on not having the cash to slide this event is beyond uncalled for.

On that note, check your PMs.
 
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Well we came up with the tire prize due to a meeting we set up with tim. He asked us to come up with 1st place and second place prize. he suggested tires and dyno time. for this event we contacted wheel boutique to sponsor the drift event with a set of tires. For the next events we can come up with another prize. and as drifting will become a bigger part of our eventz. we can contact bigger companies and have more track time. "possibly individual sponsorships." but right now we are experimenting with drifting. I want to see what kind of attention we will get from companies "Kind of like fishing." If we catch a big fish then we all win.

You did mention some of you guys have sponsors, and what better way to please your sponsors then by showing their names to thousands of people. Im sure they would gladly pay your $100 just to have their name at the homestead speedway. (just like car shows, sponsors pay for our entry.) Its all buisiness, and marketing. (and the cars are the billboards)

We have to work together on this. we have less than 2 weeks till the event. I would really love to have drifting on our future events. but we have to start with this one. and i promise you this, once we get enough sponsors like we do for our car shows then the drifting will be a bigger part of our show.
Right now we are only accepting 10 drifter to compete to give you guys more time. I hope you can support us. and help drifting be main stream like formual 1 and nascar. (and we all know those drivers get paid) :D
 
Kevin,

Absolutely. When it comes to marketing, we are both on the same page, which is cool. I do understand that Homestead is a great opportunity, and you letting us help you is just as important as we helping you.

And if I sounded ungreatful for the prizes you guys offered, then I apologize. My main point with that I personally (and I'm thinking a bunch of other guys would be with me as well) would like to see the better use of the track. Not that a free set of tires for the winner is a bad thing, and I'm thankful for that offer as well. :)

My question though is that since we have 2 hours of track time scheduled for us, then let us make the best out of those two hours by running the layout continously. That provides much more track time, and the spectators can watch the action from a few different areas, which will be cool as well. It's not like any more time has to be set aside for us. Once our time is up, we would get flagged back in and we'd park our cars.

I just feel that staging at a track such as Homestead (where we can be running it continuously) is just not a proper way to make the best out of the track.

Let me know your thoughts on that. We ran the event in such a way at the Indy Racing League in St.Petersburg, FL. I have plenty of footage from it to show you how it works. I'd be happy to share it with you so you can see what I'm talking about. Here you go:

YouTube - BMW E30 On-Car Drifting - 04/06/08

The first 5 minutes should give you a good idea of how the event is run. Look at how so many more spectators there are since they can be all located at different corners of the track.

Like I said, this is something thats definetly needs to be discussed, and let me know your thoughts and concerns so we can make the best out of this event for everyone.

- Erick
 
rwdrift said:
Did you even read what I said? I'm giving my opinion from a drifter's point of view on how to make the event better for all of us (and by all of us I mean both the organizers, the participants, AND the drifters).

And to better explain myself. Kevin was nice enough to post here and I'm assuming by doing so that he would at least be interested in what we would have to say. I have paid more in the past to get less in event track time, but that does not mean it should always be that way. My comments were my opinions on how to make a fun event for everyone: giving the drifters their time to put on the best show for the crowds to watch, which makes the crowd happy, furthermore making the event organizers happy that their event is such a success.

I even went out of my way to point out some quick research to prove a few of my points. I'm not trying to lie, or get the benefit out of something. If it's not clear by now, I expressed my opinion so that everyone wins. That's how professionals work.

You saying I cannot afford it is B/S. As a drifter you know well enough that we do what we must to get out there on the track, every-single-time. Calling me out on not having the cash to slide this event is beyond uncalled for.

On that note, check your PMs.
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PM'ed u pal!
 
I understand what you mean. thats a great idea but maybe for the next event. due to the event is less than 2 weeks away we cant make any changes without the permission of the homestead speedway.
This is the first event that IC eventz is organizing with fara, I am 100% in charge of the car/bike show,and entertainment. but as far as the drifting this will be my first time dealing with it. I cant make opinions on what i think is good because i dont know whats good. Lets do this event lets make it an unforgetable 2hrs for the spectators, and the sponsors who will be at the show. That way for our july event sponsors and spectators will request drifting to be longer and better than this one. Then i can meet up with you guys and throw some ideas around. :bigthumbu
 
great I hope everyone feels the same.

BY THE WAY IS THE MOROSO EVENT CANCELED?
 
Someone should be nice enough to hook up good ole Rob here with a roll cage/roll bar.. lol... whoever is nice enough to do this, will get a hug from me and my sister's phone number.....
 
yo

well im post ing up a drivers list on the 1st page. so if anyone that is not on the list wants to make it call or pm me. 954-557-2430
thanks
 
Okay, I really really wanna go to this. But I have mandatory meeting at work I have to be at, which starts at 10am only about an hour..

is anyone going later on (after it starts), that would wanna ride with me out there? or anything :[
 
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