RPS13 said:i agree with you bladder, The whole forbidding us to buy imports was just an example to show how bad things are getting, im not saying its going to get that bad! but things arent going good! I wouldnt want to get tickets because my car is lower because i bought coilovers to make my car handle better, or an exhaust to get a little better hp and torque from the motor! What im saying is that things are getting to the point were every car that has a few mods made to it is going to be targeted for cities to make money and lets face it a majority of enthusiats/ricers/racers/drifters w.e. you want to call it are young people. We do this because we like it and its a culture, but why should the culture suffer because cities want to make a few bucks off us!
RPS13 said:...there taking some of these cars like the camaro and the new magnums (which I hear will be made into the new police cars) dropping ls1 motors (cmon thats a freaking vette motor) and say that if we modify our cars by putting an intake and a fart cannon that were breaking the laws...makes sense? not to me!!
RPS13 said:...First off there going to say that there trying to get racing off the street...if they want to get it off the street so bad then how come they dont help the situation by making legal tracks or by donating back streets to it...
California law does not require police to measure sound levels objectively. Instead, according to the California Highway Patrol, the "citation is based on officer's judgment."
meth said:Ummmmm.... 98+ camaros (z28s & SSs) and 98+ Formulas & Trans-Ams come with ls1 motors stock. They did not drop a different motor in them.
Actually California did back in '01/'02. Not sure if they still do it, but they used to have street legal races over in San Diego in a stadium parking lot. The police would basically block off the area, and voila. A quick google search shows they still have something along those same lines... http://www.californiaspeedway.com/track/CaliforniaDragway.jsp
The Redline 03 said:Someone posted something about the economy and how many enthusiast buy from the aftermarket. I remember about a year ago on the show "Car Crazy" on SPEED it said there are about 25 million "car guys" in the United States, if not more. I'm not just saying people who like nice cars, I'm talking about full blown car crazy people, like many of us. I'm sure a good part of that number if not all buy products from the aftermarket.
What the police dont realize is that "car guys" are pumping a lot of money back into the market. If you go back a few years the automotive industry was dominated by SUVs. All the sports cars were killed off, the 2nd gen Mr2, the Supra, the list goes on and on. But just when the "sports car revalution" is coming back (Sti, Evo,350,S2k, etc) and the car companies and aftermarket are building products for us the police goes on a power trip. They dont realize what they are doing. The "car guy" has been around since the Model T was made into the 1st hot rod. Like it or not street racing has been around since the first hot rodders wanted to "test" their cars out. Someone with power and is a "car guy" needs to stand up and make it known that this is not right. We arent crimals, we just want more tracks for what we love to do, which is to drive.
Our passion isnt like basketball, football, soccer were all you need is to buy a ball and go to a park and practice all day long if you want. "Car Guys" have it a lot harder off, we want to drift, grip or drag but have pretty much no where to go. So we have our backs against the wall and go to industrial parks, emty parking lots, etc. Even though we do have some events(Thank God for that) its just not enough to go once a month, when driving hard and gaining skill is all you want to do. Sorry for the long post, this topic really gets me going.
RPS13 said:my bad I meant the LT1s
meth said:Ummm, so why would they put a slower motor in the car? The lt1 was from the early 90s.
RPS13 said:ahhh fk it, i give up i dont know **** about american motor codes you know what i mean dammit!!!!![]()
meth said:Dunno what you mean. The FHP Camaros you see on the road are bone stock, regular z28s with 300lbs of added police equipment.
meth said:Dunno what you mean. The FHP Camaros you see on the road are bone stock, regular z28s with 300lbs of added police equipment.
Nelvis138 said:And BTW all FHP Camaros are SS( SuperSports) not Z28's.
meth said:I'd love to hear how you've come to know this.![]()