e30 gangsta
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freethinker said:
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Why E36 ownz you
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Ka-Tony
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rwdrift said:
lol @ U...
You have no idea what you're talking about. What exactly would YOU consider "DECENT"? Horsepower doesnt fall off tree's you know. Its more then obvious that it takes money to make power. However, "Rediculous amount"...? Thats far from the truth my friend.
Ka-t's under 2k dollar budget make more then 100 whp gains. Is that what you call a "rediculous" amount of money? Wow, bimmer's must be like $500 to turbocharge then. :ugh:
Btw, FYI KA24DE Came in an S chassis before it ever saw a "TRUCK".
Under_Control said:lol @ U...
You have no idea what you're talking about. What exactly would YOU consider "DECENT"? Horsepower doesnt fall off tree's you know. Its more then obvious that it takes money to make power. However, "Rediculous amount"...? Thats far from the truth my friend.
Ka-t's under 2k dollar budget make more then 100 whp gains. Is that what you call a "rediculous" amount of money? Wow, bimmer's must be like $500 to turbocharge then. :ugh:
Btw, FYI KA24DE Came in an S chassis before it ever saw a "TRUCK".
Dont try to insult me... I've been in this game for a long while.
An inline-6 puts out more power stock than your 4 bangers...Even more importantly at an early stage, an inline-6 puts out a lot more torque than your 4 bangers. So in the power department, we dont need it as much as 240s do. Even the least experienced drifter has a vague sense that there is only so much a stock KA can do.
Now you defend KA's as sport motors? Face it, it's a torquey 4 banger... which seems logical to end up in a truck (as it did in Japan as well as here if I'm not mistaken). And if they were real motors, why dont I see everyone in Japan importing KAs? Oh wait... now you're going to say "because they are available there as well". So why arent the drift cars there KA powered??? It seems to be the other way around.... right.... so SRs must be the real deal then. And not to mention easier to build.... hence the better aftermarket support.
Furthermore, KA-Ts arent "under 2k". If you piece together a kit under 2k, you WILL encounter many problems, and I'm sorry but m20s are not the ones notorious for blowing up when you turbocharge them. I'm sure Slick Rick and Rob can back me up when I say that building a proper KA-T requires a LOT of work and money. Therefore, a properly built KA-T will go easily upwards of $2k. And that's a ridiculous amount of money.
I have spent over $3,000 into preparing a reliable setup for my car, including massive tuning tools such as a fuel injection system and a wideband. I got 100whp over stock with proper tuning at simply 7psi. Is it a ridiculous amount of money? Yes, by my standards it is. But I dont see why you are attacking my setup when we are comparing stock motors.
Now stop taking what I say so goddamn personal.
Ka-Tony
Spectator
They dont use Ka's because it is kind of irrashional to pull a turbo motor out and swap in an N/A Ka with less power from factory.
Things are different over here buddy. We have the KA therefore it is wise for us to use it seeing how it is IMO a well engineered motor with proven potential (go to ka-t.org and get owned). Pull the turbo off an SR and go try and drift a stock N/A Sr with an N/A Ka.. G'luck.
Either way, the point I was trying to get across was that it doesnt take a "rediculous" amount of money to Turbo a Ka. It just takes the Know hows. You're Standards however are diff from mine. I built my Ka-t with $2300 w/ Emanage. It doesnt seem like that much money to me compared to the outcome of it all.
Since you took it upon yourself to compare a 6I to a 4I.... I used to Truck 6I e30's when i was N/A all day long. Lets not even talk about the 4banger e30's. :bigthumbu :laugh:
Btw Eric, im not taking it personal. Just wanted to clear the air.
Things are different over here buddy. We have the KA therefore it is wise for us to use it seeing how it is IMO a well engineered motor with proven potential (go to ka-t.org and get owned). Pull the turbo off an SR and go try and drift a stock N/A Sr with an N/A Ka.. G'luck.
Either way, the point I was trying to get across was that it doesnt take a "rediculous" amount of money to Turbo a Ka. It just takes the Know hows. You're Standards however are diff from mine. I built my Ka-t with $2300 w/ Emanage. It doesnt seem like that much money to me compared to the outcome of it all.
Since you took it upon yourself to compare a 6I to a 4I.... I used to Truck 6I e30's when i was N/A all day long. Lets not even talk about the 4banger e30's. :bigthumbu :laugh:
Btw Eric, im not taking it personal. Just wanted to clear the air.
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I didnt even read those last two books you guys posted, but I will say that the KA is a decent motor. People rip on it for this and that, but it's not bad. Like to blow headgaskets yea.... prolly gonna boost my sister&brothers S13, but if it gives me shit then i will just get another E36 to use as their track beater.
And BTW the KA isnt a truck motor and it IS... it was based from the nap-z sohc twin spark engine, which itself was related to the Z series engines etc. Those were used in the hardbody pickups long before there was a 240sx.
The KA was the most un-sportscar like engine put into a Nissan car until the QR came out.
The M50 though is definitely a sports motor. I over-revved my 1995 one time and put the needle past the end of the tach, pointing straight down. Thats about where 9000rpm would be if it was on the tach.... still ran great every day
And BTW the KA isnt a truck motor and it IS... it was based from the nap-z sohc twin spark engine, which itself was related to the Z series engines etc. Those were used in the hardbody pickups long before there was a 240sx.
The KA was the most un-sportscar like engine put into a Nissan car until the QR came out.
The M50 though is definitely a sports motor. I over-revved my 1995 one time and put the needle past the end of the tach, pointing straight down. Thats about where 9000rpm would be if it was on the tach.... still ran great every day
e30 gangsta
Driver
u guys are funny. If it has upward of 135 rwhp it can slide in a e30 or a s chassi. So if your past that mark just have fun.
everyone should just buy a toyota and be happy, i think toyota is the happy medium
mikespeed95
Driver
i just wanted to say these cars woudl all be awesome if they came factory equipped with ls1's. end of story.
D. Davaine
Spectator
shawn i want you to breath deep in and out. now get your fucking head out your ass and think. your a smart fucker and the bullshit that i have been reading is stupid. you bought a car from a auction. now think we all dont have that licence to do that. secondly please explain why your tranny is out and your clutch is in your hand. oh thats right you had to fucking machine a fucking throwout bearing. why?
i am not defending the s chassic since i hate them but to tell people that bmw is a better drifter car then a 240 is bullshit. just remember houston. anyways ill see you at the shop tomorrow i got the flywheel done i want to put in. try and not have the bimmer on the lift.
i am not defending the s chassic since i hate them but to tell people that bmw is a better drifter car then a 240 is bullshit. just remember houston. anyways ill see you at the shop tomorrow i got the flywheel done i want to put in. try and not have the bimmer on the lift.
bishoptaner said:
Are you retarded? You have no idea about anything to do with that car and yet you try to say something???
Make a phone call before you try to say something and then end up being so fucking wrong it's funny.
Machine a throwout bearing? I bought a universal racing hydraulic throwout bearing. A $100 piece that is proven to work with aftermarket clutches like the tilton. I went to install it and found that it does not clear the BMW input bearing retainer. Are you still with me here? Cause I know you have no clue what my actual problems were with this thing.
Well I could have rigged some shit and done it but I wanted to make something nice and reliable. So I had a new retainer machined and redid the collar size to also act as an alignment ring for the hydraulic T/O assembly. The shit is done, installed and ready to put back in the car tomorrow.
And now for about $1000 I have a twin plate clutch that will hold over 1,000hp and is also THE LIGHTEST possible assembly you can put in this car.
Now before one of you out there jumps in the ring and cries 'but I can buy a clutch and flywheel for my Nissan XB92R1GSXR typerR for $600'
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I could have put some cheap stuff into this car too. But you can buy the same stuff for a Nissan and guess what, it's the exact same price. Welcome to the world of real Motorsports parts.
As far as better drift car.... both can be made to perform equally, the BMW is the better CAR though. And what about Houston, what is there to remember? The fact that 1 Nissan 1 Corolla and 1 BMW got licenses ??
And if you don't remember, theres this kid named Nick who spent something like $100,000 on a fucking S13 while Ive spent about 10k total on my car (including all the silly unnecessary stuff).
I guess that means Nissans are the more expensive cars to build and BMW's are better drift cars.???
e30 gangsta
Driver
i fucking hate s chassi cars but thats just me.